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BFTEagles
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Initially Posted - 05/01/2008 :  11:44:02  Show Profile
I've been reading the posts on this forum for several months now, but have never registered. I'm ready to start contributing now. We've owned a Precision 21 (and still do if anyone is interested) and loved it dearly. We decided to upgrade and can't wait to use the Catalina 25. My dad owned a Catalina 22 way back in the day and loves the design of a Catalina boat. Our 1981 C25 is sitting on the trailer in my driveway, ready to be splashed. We bought it in Charleston, SC and have been working to seal up the cabin. We've removed the swing keel's pin and bolts, checked them and reinstalled everything. New zincs. Fresh bottom paint. Reinforced the motor mount from the quarter berth. It's all ready to go...we just need to name it. I have a hard time naming a boat. I've got a fishing boat in the driveway too that has been used for a year now without a name. Will my sailing world be cursed if we don't get a name on it first?

1981 Catalina 25 "unnamed"
2006 Key West 2020 cc "unnamed"
1987 Precision 21 "The Jazz"
Old 14ft Jon boat "The Fishnutz"

Beaufort, SC

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Davy J
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Response Posted - 05/01/2008 :  12:01:28  Show Profile
Sailing your boat without a name is certain DOOM, akin to bringing a woman on board or leaving port on a Friday.

I sailed without a name on the boat for three years. I kept writing names on a piece of paper, but could not decide. One sheet became two, then three, then four sheets of names.

Very difficult process. One test for us, was, what does it sound like to a bridge tender after you hail him fast three times.

Good Luck

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delliottg
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Response Posted - 05/01/2008 :  14:59:54  Show Profile  Visit delliottg's Homepage
If it helps, I never really named my San Juan 21, the previous owners called it "Juan Quixote", but that really never did it for me. When I referred to it, it was by it's sail number, or "the San Juan". I sailed that boat for about six years like that, and the worst thing that ever happened to me was on my first or second trip back into the marina when the engine conked out. Not a very impressive display of seamanship for my then new girlfriend at the time. We spent a while trying desperately not to play bumperboats and fortunately it was a cold day in April, so there wasn't anyone in the peanut gallery. After a few more outings in the boat, I learned that where the engine conked out on that occasion was pretty much where I could shut it off & scull in anyway. Live & learn.

On our C-250, we spent months trying to come up with a name that we both liked. We sailed it a number of times without a name, but decided on one before we put it in the marina. You can read about it [url="http://ritaho.blogspot.com/2007/07/whats-meaning-got-story-behind-from.html"]here[/url] if you're interested.

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stampeder
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Response Posted - 05/01/2008 :  15:23:30  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Will my sailing world be cursed if we don't get a name on it first?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

No, but birds will roost in your rigging.

Welcome to the Forum. Sounds like you have a head start on most Newbies, so I expect I'll be asking your advice before too long.

If you edit your profile to include your boat details, you will get more qualified responses. I take it you have a standard rig Swing Keel, same year as mine. I'd like to see pictures.

When we bought our boat, we didn't like the name so we peeled the old vinyl off and picked a new name - EL Barco - but on our way out to the dock (on our way back from the liquour store where we procured a bottle of Dom to christen the boat with) we saw that the commodore of the marina had a boat named El Barco, so we named it La Barca...which in the end seemed a more fitting name. We have had nothing but good luck with this boat....even though we defied all the naming conventions. (a boat with three names in one day)
Welcome, we look forward to hearing all about your sailing adventures on a boat made in Catalina's best ever year.

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 05/01/2008 :  15:27:13  Show Profile  Visit Champipple's Homepage
The time to put a reef in is when you first start thinking that you might need one because it might get worse while your thinking.


The time to name the boat is when you first start thinking that not naming it will bring bad luck...Why tempt it....

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 05/01/2008 :  15:49:21  Show Profile
A nephew of mine has a Striper fishing boat and while out on the Atlantic fishing, he developed engine problems and required assistance. When on the radio, he was asked what his vessel's name was, but he had never named the boat, so he replied, "this is um...er...Striper". From then on, he refers to his boat as Striper.

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 05/01/2008 :  15:50:45  Show Profile
My new one was called <i>Whatsername</i> for her first several months--radioing bridge operators and such. Some folks were lobbying me to name her <i>Dark Side</i> (for where I had gone)... I finally decided on something with great significance within my family--it's a mystery to the bridge operators, one of whom says it should be <i>Chief</i>.

Just don't name yours <i>Ecsta Sea</i> --please.

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 05/01/2008 :  17:21:03  Show Profile  Visit Frank Hopper's Homepage
Here are a few thousand to consider.
http://www.boatus.com/boatgraphics/names/Fnames.asp
http://www.namethatboat.com/popular-boat-names.htm

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quilombo
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Response Posted - 05/01/2008 :  19:57:59  Show Profile
I just named my boat , in aobut a five foot long lettering on the side, and its called "Don't Panic" but the best part is that it is written upside down,,
think about it,,lol

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 05/01/2008 :  20:12:33  Show Profile
Good one! Have you heard of Derek Crawford's famous C-25 in Texas: <i>^ This Side Up ^</i>

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stampeder
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Response Posted - 05/01/2008 :  20:36:18  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">"Don't Panic"<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Keep your towel handy.

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Deric
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Response Posted - 05/01/2008 :  21:06:10  Show Profile
The name of my boat was named by the previous owner: Obsession. I know I shall change the name, but haven't decided on the name yet.

I am more distracted by the sail numbers:911


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filmsomething
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Response Posted - 05/01/2008 :  21:40:24  Show Profile
Congrats on the new boat. Oddly enough I sold my P21 and upgraded to a C25 also. And I'm also in the same "boat" as you and cannot decide on a name. Good luck on your first sail and finding a name.


ps. I wanted to name it "dont panic" and write it up side down, but it just seemed like it would curse it

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quilombo
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Response Posted - 05/02/2008 :  05:44:23  Show Profile
Im not superstitious Jon, just thought it was funny,,, lol, hope Im right

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Prospector
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Response Posted - 05/02/2008 :  07:05:24  Show Profile  Visit Prospector's Homepage
We settled on a name for ours after my wife told me that the PO's name wasn't her cup of tea. "Iris" will be splashed in a week or two. Her namesake is found here: http://hunter.apana.org.au/~gallae/pantheon/myth/iris.htm

For us the challenge was not finding a name, it is getting the boat to "forget" its old name which was 11 letters long written in 6" block letters on the side of the boat. our new name, 4 letters long in 12" letters doesn't have nearly the same footprint.

I have been out every night with rubbing compound trying to get the wax off the hull and to blend out the gelcoat so the old lettering doesn't show. If I get one letter out in a night I consider it a success. If I buy another boat, I will be sure I like its name, because I NEVER want to do this again.

While i don't consider it bad luck to rename a boat, I am a little superstitious in that I feel your boat should not "remember" its old name.

(If anyone knows of a faster way to remove wax down to gelcoat, my arms would appreciate the tip)

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Renzo
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Response Posted - 05/02/2008 :  08:22:10  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">[i](If anyone knows of a faster way to remove wax down to gelcoat, my arms would appreciate the tip)<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
If it is truly a WAX and not a polymer compound, full strength commercial grade ammonia (available at HD or Lowes as a floor wax stripper will remove most of the wax. Any remaining wax will be easier to remove with the rubbing compound because it will have been softened by the ammonia treatment.

PS: I assume you are using a motorized buffing wheel with your rubbing compound.

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stampeder
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Response Posted - 05/02/2008 :  09:27:42  Show Profile
The only way to completely remove ghosting is to remove some gelcoat.
I sanded my topsides gelcoat to remove 25 year old remnants of vinyl and stick-on crap. I removed a miniscule amount of gelcoat, using a light touch with 200 grit sanding discs on a random orbit sander.
Some boat owners think this is a completely stupid idea, some think it is a good idea if you've got sufficient thickness of gelcoat. I believe that my boat has a sufficient thickness of gelcoat. After having spent an entire week sanding off 25 years worth of accumulated paint off the bottom, I was in tune with my sander and had a good feel for things. I decided to sand the topsides after careful consideration and the gathering of many opinions. My topsides now look like new, I don't think I sanded off as much as an ounce of gelcoat dust.

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cat1951
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Response Posted - 05/02/2008 :  09:55:24  Show Profile
We will be renaming our C25 this Fall when we take her out for a new bottom job. Nothing wrong with the present name, but the Admiral wants something in Italian..since that is her heritage. We have been considering things like: on the wind, with the wind, seabreeze, fresh breeze, all in Italian of course.

There are two names that I have always liked for those with a sense of humor:
Name the boat "After You" then when someone asks you can always say I named it after you.
The other one that I think is pretty clever is "Knot for Sail"... I have seen that at our location, so it is not a choice for us.

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Prospector
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Response Posted - 05/02/2008 :  10:20:47  Show Profile  Visit Prospector's Homepage
Boat names that we giggled at (or at least I did) included:

"Mary" - so we could tell folks to "Hail Mary" on the VHF
"What" - So when folks said "What's your Boat's name" we could answer "Thats right"
"Pop-Pop" with a graphic of popcorn on the stern - Then when folks hailed us - "pop-pop, pop-pop, pop-pop" they would make a bowl of popcorn.

There were others, they slip my mind now. Lost genius.

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BFTEagles
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Response Posted - 05/02/2008 :  17:37:33  Show Profile
Thanks for all the great responses. Lots of funny stories...we hope to launch her on Memorial Day Weekend. By the way, are most people on this board from the Northeast or what? Just curious...I'm loving life down here in the Sunny South...

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DaveR
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Response Posted - 05/03/2008 :  09:02:02  Show Profile  Visit DaveR's Homepage
Hi Brian,
Welcome to the forum.
Brian asked;<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">By the way, are most people on this board from the Northeast or what? Just curious...<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
Not at all. There are sailors from every corner of the country and many from Canada as well. Check out the Cruising forum and you'll see stories and pictures from all over. I especially like to hear stories/see pics from the Seattle-Vancouver area, just beautiful!

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MartinJW
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Response Posted - 05/10/2008 :  08:44:02  Show Profile
We've been lucky in that the names of our boats have really just sort of come to us. Our only criteria has been that the name must be short-ish (less than maybe 10-12 letters and no more than 2-3 syllables) and easy to understand, which might be important in an emergency when you're identifying yourself over the VHF radio.

Our first boat was a used Capri-16, which the previous owner had named <i><b>Blue</b></i>. She was about 17 1/2 feet long overall, but her beam was about 7 1/2 feet - she looked round to us. My wife took one look at her and laughed: "She looks more like a <b><i>BlueBERRY</i></b>, than a sailboat!" So, the name stuck.

(<i>By the way, the Capri-16 actually had a small cabin with a porta-pottie, cooler, and two quarter berths; we regularly "camped out" in her for a couple of days at a time. Also, she was surprisingly fast despite her short waterline and chubby beam. Finally, she was very, very simple: halyards, mainsheet, jibsheets, downhaul, outhaul - no winches, no furling, no traveler, etc., and I think that this made her very NON-intimidating for someone new to sailing like my wife. This was my wife's first sailboat and first serious experience with sailing; she fell in love with this little boat and sailing in general, and we've been messing about in sailboats ever since.</i>)

Our second boat - a 2007 Catalina 18 mk II - was purchased when we were living in a town on Lake Tahoe. Although we had loved <i><b>Blueberry</b></i>, we thought that our new C-18 was much more beautiful and sleek. When we took possession of the boat in the spring, the wildflowers were in full bloom, especially the Lupines. Since the (new and beautiful) boat's arrival had coincided with the (new and beautiful) spring Lupine flowers, we named the new boat <i><b>Lupine</b></i>.

So, now we find ourselves the proud new owners of a 2008 C-250wk and we've been casting about for a suitable name. Since this all started with our C-16, we wanted to pay homage to the little boat, and so we've named the new boat <i><b>Bluebell</b></i>. This gives us a reference to our first ever boat and contains a floral element connection to the first new boat that we ever owned. We're happy, and we hope the sailing Gods are pleased.

So, there you have it; more than you ever wanted to know about the nomenclature lineage of the Wallace's sailboats.

Happy sailing and good luck finding a suitable name,
(Kali &) Martin

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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 05/10/2008 :  10:23:25  Show Profile
Our first boat, a CLark 14, made by the Clark Boat Company (San Juan 21, 24, etc) was named MADAKAT, for my brother and co-user MAtt, DAvid (me), and our mother KAthryn, who put up the purchase money. Later, in 1977, Matt and I bought the C-22, (I bought him out a few years later and still own and race her) which went unnamed until about 4 years ago when we named her Shadowfax, after the wizard Gandolf's white stallion in <u>Lord of the Rings</u>. We named the C-25 RECESS, which is a throw-back to grade school referring to going out to play. Seemed a nice fit!

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Oksky
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Response Posted - 05/10/2008 :  10:32:26  Show Profile
We will be doing our boat nameing cerimony this Wednesday before we launch her for the season. Now I'm not superstitious, just looking for a reason to waste a little whiskey:-)The new name is Occum's Razor.

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