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Nautiduck
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Initially Posted - 05/07/2008 :  11:08:31  Show Profile
How many of you actively use the traveler while sailing? I tend to leave mine in the centered position because it is easier for the crew and the traveler track is so short it wouldn't seem to have much impact. What about you? Has anyone modded the traveler and made it's track longer to provide more control impact?? Has anyone routed the traveler control lines to the back of the cockpit??


We cannot direct the winds but we can adjust our sails.
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welshoff
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Response Posted - 05/07/2008 :  12:12:50  Show Profile
Randy,
I use my traveler, especially in heavy wind. I will let it out to leeward to de-power the main. Sometimes in light air I will pull it to windward.

I have not contemplated any traveler changes. I don't see the need to reroute the controls.
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frankr
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Response Posted - 05/07/2008 :  12:45:38  Show Profile
I use it the same way in heavy and light winds. There are also some other subtle uses of it that I haven't mastered yet. Didn't relocate the lines since it usually isn't something you are jumping up and down to do often - unless you are tacking frequently.
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Seadog
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Response Posted - 05/07/2008 :  13:37:50  Show Profile
If you do change the traveler I would install a harken 4:1 system with the lines led aft through cam cleats on the traveler or install remote cam cleats closer to helm. I prefer using the travel to depower Main in puffs. The reseason is your Main trim stays set when the puff resides bring the travel back to the original position. Sheeting out the Main to depower in puffs requires more time to retrim the Main.

I use the traveler all the time to help with sail trim.
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JohnP
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Response Posted - 05/08/2008 :  11:01:53  Show Profile
I use the traveler often when tacking to go the 5 miles or so out of the river onto the bay, in order to cut closer around one or more sand bars or channel markers and sometimes avoid 1 or 2 tacks..

The original traveler & cam cleats on the transom can only be easily adjusted to leeward the moment before coming about on the new tack. I'd like to upgrade.

(The original traveler on the 78 C-25, that is)
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willy
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Response Posted - 05/08/2008 :  11:34:27  Show Profile
The only downside I can see to the WB is...no traveler. My experience with other boats is that they are GREAT for reducing weather helm.
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tomara
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Response Posted - 05/20/2008 :  12:51:55  Show Profile
I sometimes use the traveler.........and sometimes I do not. I guess it depends how I feel for heel. However I will also now check it also for SAFETY before use.

Why? This past weekend during a calm wind of about 10 - 12 mph, while on a close haul at starboard tack, the boom suddenly swung with great force to the leeward side.

What happened? The D Shackle Clevis at the base where the boom lines meet the traveler became uncoupled. The clevis pin became unwound from the shackle because the D Shackle Clevis was bent dramatically outward.

What caused the bend? I do not know. It could have been from the great winds we had over the early spring, or someone stepped on the traveler at the D Shackle. The Port T Bar is OK. The starboard T Bar on the traveler is also bent downward. I am mystifyed.

I bought a new D Shackle Clevis for $7 and went back sailing the same afternoon. I used the Traveler again and sometimes I don't use it.
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Arlyn Stewart
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Response Posted - 05/20/2008 :  18:41:17  Show Profile  Visit Arlyn Stewart's Homepage
Willy, a couple of WB owners added a traveler and reported only slightly enhanced control.

Doubling the boom vang purchase by adding a wire block and length of wire line can serve about the same purpose as the traveler and much cheaper and easier to rig and deal with. I did so and have found the boom extrusion very stout and capable of the increased vang purchase and have used the vang many times in lieu of not having a traveler.
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frogger
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Response Posted - 05/20/2008 :  18:57:15  Show Profile
Just about the only time I use the traveler is when pinching.
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willy
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Response Posted - 05/22/2008 :  15:02:22  Show Profile
Arlyn I just looked on your website at your vang mods and think I would really need to see that thing rigged, on the boat to "get it". If you have time next time your out....
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Turk
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Response Posted - 05/26/2008 :  19:23:07  Show Profile  Visit Turk's Homepage
I use the traveler all the time now that I've learned a little trick. After you tack and especially under strong winds, pulling on the traveler to get it over to windward can be quite difficult. While racing it became a real challenge as it was my job and the crew are usually in the way.

Here's the trick. Use the wind to your favor. Let the traveler loose before you tack. Tighten, then tack.

It definitely helps in light wind, and following the logic, it should also help in medium and strong winds. Of course it can be used to de-power your main and keep you more upright also.

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 05/27/2008 :  12:28:20  Show Profile
The C25 has a rather short, somewhat inadequate traveller that necessitates the use of vang-sheeting to control leech tension once the traveller has reached its end of travel.
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