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Merrick
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Initially Posted - 05/27/2008 :  09:14:24  Show Profile
Can anyone tell me how to remove the pin that holds the brass roller for the keel cable? Mine is showing some deterioration and I have the new parts, but I couldn't get the pin to move and didn't want to beat on it much for fear of damaging or loosening the tube.


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tinob
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Response Posted - 05/27/2008 :  11:18:41  Show Profile
Morning Steve,

I've never done what you propose to do BUT, two things come to mind:

1).... relax all tension against/ on the ball. This means unwinding the keel until its cable is slack. That should, with some lubrication, free up the pin with a modicum of pressure.

2).... plan ahead as to how you will keep the ball from free-falling.

Hopefully others will have more to offer.

Val on Calista #3936, Patchogue, N.Y.

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 05/27/2008 :  13:47:11  Show Profile  Visit Frank Hopper's Homepage
Tap the pin out but don't drop the ball!. You might want to check out the photos on my pages.



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Merrick
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Response Posted - 05/27/2008 :  13:50:58  Show Profile
thanks for the tips, Val. I had the cable loose, but the pin seems to be frozen in there pretty solid. I'm stumped as to how to get any pressure on it to try to work it loose.

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tinob
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Response Posted - 05/27/2008 :  14:09:37  Show Profile
Steve it sounds like its time to bring out the "C" clamps. Imagine a "C" clamp abreast the tube with a small pin on one side and a socket on the other, the driving pin need be just slightly less in diameter than the ball's pin diameter. Pressure from the clamp drives the small pin against the ball's pin and the socket allows the ball's pin to escape.
You may have to enlarge the pin/socket sizes as needed until the ball's pin allows the ball to be free. it's not necessary to take the ball's pin all the way out, just enough to free the ball.

If you only have two hands duck tape will hold both pin and socket to the "C" clamp freeing your two hands to hold the clamp in place while applying pressure. Let me know how you make out. seems like it'll work from here.

Val on Calista, "3936, Patchogue, N.Y.

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Merrick
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Response Posted - 05/27/2008 :  14:11:54  Show Profile
Frank, I thought it should just tap out, but maybe corroded? Guess I'll get back in there and keep tapping.

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Merrick
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Response Posted - 05/27/2008 :  14:19:02  Show Profile
Val, I'm sure if I can get it to budge it will come loose. the walls aren't that thick holding it. thanks for the idea.

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Justin
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Response Posted - 05/27/2008 :  18:18:59  Show Profile  Visit Justin's Homepage
Mine was terrible last year as you can see here:


It took about two hours of tapping and letting some spray lubricant soak in. I was about to give up on it but it eventually began to budge very slowly.

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Deric
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Response Posted - 05/27/2008 :  20:21:52  Show Profile
I am glad to happen upon this thread.

I have to replace the ball and pin this week. I am also replacing the cable. I'll get some pics when I start the project and post.

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ClamBeach
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Response Posted - 05/27/2008 :  20:40:02  Show Profile
Proper sized drift and a couple raps with a hammer got mine moving.

Make one or more of the ends aren't glassed over... I've heard that some of them need a little glass removal.

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Dave5041
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Response Posted - 05/27/2008 :  23:39:10  Show Profile
Justin, that is a winner! I thought mine looked bad.

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sweetcraft
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Response Posted - 05/28/2008 :  00:01:48  Show Profile
What great pictures. The keel design works with good inspections at the start of each season. I do carry a spare brass ball and pin for the next time. Remember do this only on the trailer.

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Merrick
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Response Posted - 05/28/2008 :  10:18:33  Show Profile
thanks for all the input and the pictures - we had just purchased the boat this spring and putting it in the water for the first time, so we replaced the cable and the bracket so we would know what we had starting out. The ball is the last thing. I think cleaning the sides of tube might help, also much spray lube, as mentioned.

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