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Bortiquai
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Initially Posted - 06/18/2008 : 21:27:38

I've been looking into paints for my deck. I've already re-painted the "non-skid" areas, and would like to re-paint the in between areas.

Since i've been looking, i've gotten confused. I had been thinking that "Non-Skid" was the sand paper feeling areas. Is this correct? If so, what are the in between area called? I got confused because while looking at the shelves of paint, there were a huge amount of them that said "non-skid" or some variation of that, and it seemed (based upon the description) like they a) didn't have sand and b) were meant for all areas of the deck.

I've got Don Casey's Hull & Deck Repair book. My deck has little dings through out the deck, like someone just walked around shooting it with a BB gun (especially in the cockpit area). Not to mention the cracks. So i'm going to repair those, then wanted to paint.

Any suggestions on what to look for in paint? Like i said - the sand paper areas are already done. Brands and Models would be great.

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Matt

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 06/18/2008 : 22:25:53

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Bortiquai
 I had been thinking that "Non-Skid" was the sand paper feeling areas. Is this correct? If so, what are the in between area called?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">Skid.

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Nautiduck
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Response Posted - 06/18/2008 : 23:09:40

Non skid is the textured areas of the deck, looks like little checkerboard or diamonds. The smooth surfaces of the deck are not non-skid. Typically, at least on the boats I am familiar with, the non-skid is a different color from the rest of the deck. On my boat the non-skid is gray and the rest is white. Non-skid does not have sand in it. I guess you could add sand but most boats don't. So, to paint the whole deck you would tape the non-skid areas off and paint them. Then tape off the rest and paint it.

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Response Posted - 06/19/2008 : 09:44:54

Matt, I'm curious what you used for the non-skid areas? I've been consdering repainting those areas as they need attention and I don't want to buff out and wax for fear of making them too slippery. Also I spend a lot of time barefoot on deck, so I'm not sure sand would be good. I had a sunfish at one time, the topsides of which had been repainted with sand. After a few hours of sailing your bum would hurt like hell, not to mention the wear on your shorts.

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Response Posted - 06/19/2008 : 10:18:24

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Nautiduck
 Typically, at least on the boats I am familiar with, the non-skid is a different color from the rest of the deck. <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

They are the same colour on mine. Sadly th eonly pics I have of the top of the boat have about 3" of snow on it...

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Response Posted - 06/19/2008 : 10:35:10

Bortiquai--I have painted the decks on two boats. I used Interlux Brightsides. For the vertical areas, I generally use it straight and for horizontal areas and deck surfaces, add the Interlux flattening agent. It is very tricky to paint the non skid areas without filling up the spaces, but it can be done by being very gentle with the brush and brushing the paint on lightly. Be aware of a couple of things when painting a boat:

It should be your last resort after everything else has failed or if the gel coat is so obviously bad that there is no question. (my case)

Preparation is everything.

The sun is your enemy. You are in Puerto Rico. I lived and sailed there for a long time. I would suggest that you paint deck, non skid and all WHITE. I made the mistake in New Orleans of painting the non skid a pretty contrasting gold color and it was unbearable in the summer sun. It would only have been worse in PR.

Remember that once you paint a boat you will always be touching it up. I painted mine three years ago and this year I have to re-do the deck. If I choose to do it in summer time I have to be at the marina about 5:00AM. If the sun is shining directly on your deck it will dry too fast.

Lots of luck. It is not as big a job as some think, but it is a job.

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Stardog
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Response Posted - 06/19/2008 : 11:32:51

So I presume that you would have to remove any wax or other protective barrier before you paint? This could be quite difficult as these kinds of materials can penetrate quite far into the gelcoat.

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Bortiquai
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Response Posted - 06/19/2008 : 14:01:55

Stardog - I don't remember the brand of paint, but I have what's left of the can down at the marina and will note it tonight. Anyway, first we sanded with wet/dry 60-Grit. Then wiped all the non-skid areas with Acetone. The non-skid area used to be diamond/checker textured, but with age it was starting to ware down, and even peel of in some areas. Also, the old non-skid was this hideous light baby blue. I had to get rid of that. I used "Off-White" and at first i wasn't impressed, but when it dried, it really made the white areas pop out. It stays nice and cool in the sun as well. (baby blue used to scald my feet).

The paint already had the sand in it. I am really happy with the way it turned out. I too walk barefoot full time on the boat, and have excellent grip in those areas. We did not paint the cockpit area for exactly the reason that with the sand, after a day of sailing we'd lose a bathing suit and most of the skin on our butts.

My advice on this is make sure you mix this paint really well, and continually. Where i didn't, there is much more sand than other areas and it makes the paint look darker in those spots.

It seems like there are a thousand different directions i could go with this. I really don't like the way my "skid" areas look. It's old and beat. As I mentioned before, there are cracks and little "BB Gun" divots throughout. In addition, there are a few spots where light blue or red is showing through the white. A friend told me this could be old paint or gel coat layers. Also, on the very very front of the bow (around the stem fitting) there are large chips in the paint, probably 3-4" in diameter. If not paint, what else can I do? If paint... the Interlux? I did see that down at WM. I could take some pictures of the worst areas if that would help.

Anyway, thanks for everyone who chimed in.
Matt

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