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jerlim
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Initially Posted - 06/30/2008 : 12:28:19

As we are now in full season, many family/friends want to come along for a sail - which is really great as I enjoy having guests. The problem has been too many people wanting to come along at the same time. I'm most comfortable with a maximum of 2 adults (in all cases non-sailors). As I'm basically single handing, (which is totally cool)this keeps the cockpit pretty open and lets me do what needs to be done w/o playing musical chairs with a small crowd. The down side is most of <i><b>mi familia</b></i> has 2 adults and 2 - 3 kids (teenagers) who want to go out - and splitting them up isn't really an option - I'm feeling that's a bit too much.
What say ye?

Jerry

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cat1951
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Response Posted - 06/30/2008 : 12:50:59

I feel the same as you Jerry, 2 additional adults besides the Admiral and me is about right. Beyond that they will only find extra room in the cabin, or on the bow where they have to watch out when we are taking. If the boom were higher, sitting atop the cabin would work well, but there just isn't enough headroom there either.

We took our keelboat sailing course on a 27' dolphin with 4 adults and the instructor. We were constantly moving whenever tacking or any other maneuver. The boom was higher though and we could sit on the cabin top.

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 06/30/2008 : 13:04:17

For a pleasure cruise - I usually try to have no more people than there are seats in the cockpit give or take 1. That was probably 5 tops in the C-25. For a race - one pound less than the phrf certificate weight allowance in heavy air. Down to the PHRF minimum of 3 in light air. Boat transport for a race- up to the coast guard maximum (weather permitting) but usually 3 or 4.

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Renzo
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Response Posted - 06/30/2008 : 13:18:58

I prefer only 2 other people but will tollerate 4 if the weather is calm and we are only going for a short day-sail. Once, when I was new to owning a boat I envited 4 people from work to come sailing with me and the admiral. Everyone showed up with a friend and we wound up with 10 people on board. Fortunatly the wind was very light and all went well, but I will never leave dock with that many people on board again.

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Nautiduck
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Response Posted - 06/30/2008 : 13:20:14

We had five in the boat last night. All adults. Really too many for true sailing. It was windy (16MPH) and my 85 year old mom was aboard. So we deployed just 1/3 of the genny, no mainsail at all. Still hit 5KPH at one point on a close reach! With that many people in the cockpit it was not feasible to tack much so we did one long run out, tacked, and one long run in. Of course, everyone had a PFD on.

Generally, I think 4 adults is the max in the cockpit and it helps if at least one is in a catbird seat.

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JohnP
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Response Posted - 06/30/2008 : 13:56:42

2 or 3 or 4 (or 5 if good friends/family)

Depending on athleticism, enthusiasm, seasickness-score

Depending on skill level as crew or willingness to learn

Depending if conditions are calm enough to sail with the C-25 pop-top open, making much more room for guests to move about & enjoy the beautiful weather & the sights.

Depending on overnighter or not

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piseas
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Response Posted - 06/30/2008 : 15:18:05

Depends on weather. I was out yesterday with admiral and 2 friends. It was blowing 12-15 and choppy. We were playing musical chairs.
So 2 is magic number for me. If we are motoring in harbor, then 4.
I have had out of town relatives visit and had 6 or 7 sailing. Luckily 3 kids were in cabin taking nap!
Steve A

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 06/30/2008 : 15:21:45

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piseas
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Response Posted - 06/30/2008 : 17:32:13

Dave, is that 4 on each boat?

Steve A

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Stardog
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Response Posted - 06/30/2008 : 17:41:56

My preference is two or three total, but I'm selfish when it comes to space. I've found it works well with more if there are a few who enjoy staying below to relax and chat. I've mentioned before that I had friends who brought their friends and their friends brought friends, until I had far too many and it was no longer fun and was a chore to police everything that was going on. I was planning to paint the cockpit with black and yellow slanted stripes and stencil in large letters "Crew Working", which I never did. But I do enforce a rule when it gets crowded that the cockpit is for those working the boat and no one else is allowed there.

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Stardog
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Response Posted - 06/30/2008 : 17:54:38

Is that your boat Happy?

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Deric
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Response Posted - 06/30/2008 : 19:52:36

Sometimes kids can behave such that one child can be three; they tend to be all over. I prefer two more adults no more than 4. If there are kids, I gotta have at least one adult dedicated to watching the kids at all times.

Deric

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redviking
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Response Posted - 06/30/2008 : 20:37:37

We often took out parties of four. That would add up to six! When the 7 month prego girl took a nap down below under full sail, I was surprised. It is tight but possible. 4 is a good number in my opinion from experience.

sten

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aeckhart
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Response Posted - 07/01/2008 : 12:54:37

Try this.....if you sant to sail you have to help wash and wax. Only the real die-hards who really want to sail will hang around.

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