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mrapkins
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Initially Posted - 08/18/2008 :  08:31:28  Show Profile
There is this opening/thing on the foredeck in front of the deadlight:

http://womble1.shutterfly.com/

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Patrice C25
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Response Posted - 08/18/2008 :  08:55:49  Show Profile
the only opening I have in the fordeck in front of the light, is the ancor locker ...
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Picture would be nice, something previous owner must have done ???

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Response Posted - 08/18/2008 :  09:27:56  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Patrice C25</i>
<br />the only opening I have in the fordeck in front of the light, is the ancor locker ...
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Picture would be nice, something previous owner must have done ???
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Hopefully, you can now see the "thingy". It was original according to the PO. It's a 1985 Standard Rig, Fin Keel.

The thing you see is screwed in.

CD have a Cowl Vent that I did order but it seemed like a sure-fire way to let rain/spray into the vee berth so I returned it.

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Response Posted - 08/18/2008 :  10:18:40  Show Profile  Visit Frank Hopper's Homepage
If it is the standard 4" Nicro hole then you have an array of Nicro products you can consider.

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Even Chance
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Response Posted - 08/18/2008 :  15:35:04  Show Profile
I think Frank's right -- that's where I put my Nicro solar vent. Since I installed mine, I've been through some pretty nasty storms and seas with nary a leak. It will help reduce the mildrew down below.

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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 08/18/2008 :  18:45:57  Show Profile
Looks like the deck fitting for a cowl or solar powered vent. It looks like you just have a cover plate screwed on there right now.

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mrapkins
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Response Posted - 08/19/2008 :  06:13:27  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by dmpilc</i>
<br />Looks like the deck fitting for a cowl or solar powered vent. It looks like you just have a cover plate screwed on there right now.
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It measures about 2.75 inches and consequently is completely non-standard. It is covered with a piece of vinyl which is deteriorating and will soon be punctured.

What is the best method to enlarge a hole on the foredeck to allow for "standard" size fixtures.

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Response Posted - 08/19/2008 :  08:55:37  Show Profile  Visit Frank Hopper's Homepage
Then drill a bigger Nicro compliant hole and buy the Nicro device of your choice; possibly just the plug.

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frog0911
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Response Posted - 08/19/2008 :  09:11:19  Show Profile
Probably had one of these installed, based on the hole size.



Three inch cowl vent.

You would probably have to use a jig saw to enlarge the hole since no center is available for a drill mounted hole saw.

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Patrice C25
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Response Posted - 08/19/2008 :  10:28:10  Show Profile
Hi,
Not sure it was original from Catalina...
It look like it was drilled after for a vent. By the picture, it look like the plastic ring that goes inside hte boat of the Nicrovent.
Best thing I think would be to buy a new vent, with the next up sized diameter, and recut the opening with jig saw, as mentioned by others. It will help a lot for condensation in Vberth.

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 08/19/2008 :  12:58:08  Show Profile  Visit Frank Hopper's Homepage
Catalina did offer a cowl vent in that location on early boats.

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jerlim
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Response Posted - 08/19/2008 :  14:13:02  Show Profile
What about as a mount for a forward cannon?

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mrapkins
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Response Posted - 08/19/2008 :  14:32:03  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by frog0911</i>
<br />Probably had one of these installed, based on the hole size.



Three inch cowl vent.

You would probably have to use a jig saw to enlarge the hole since no center is available for a drill mounted hole saw.
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How does one stop splintering on the interior liner when cutting with a jig saw? Masking tape?

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jerlim
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Response Posted - 08/19/2008 :  15:02:39  Show Profile
Yes, tape helps, but also use a narrow kerf blade in the saw.

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 08/20/2008 :  03:07:26  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by mrapkins</i>
<br />What is the best method to enlarge a hole on the foredeck to allow for "standard" size fixtures.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

If you're using a hole saw to enlarge an existing hole, simply make or buy a wood plug to jam into the hole. This will facilitate centering of the larger hole saw.

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Voyager
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Response Posted - 08/20/2008 :  22:50:55  Show Profile
Does anybody have the link for the Nicro solar vent? I have a pretty musty smell whenever I first open the boat, which dissipates after a little while. I believe some air circulation would prevent or reduce the smell.

As far as I can tell, the source of the smell seems the bottom of the bilge, right where the keel is attached. I know this because whenever I open a drawer or cabinet door, the smell is apparent.

As I don't see any leaks down there, I believe the water comes in from the rain, as its always a wee bit damp. I wipe the area frequently with paper towels, nonetheless, there's always a few ounces of water down below.

Other than the vent, any other suggestions would be appreciated.

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Response Posted - 08/20/2008 :  23:51:20  Show Profile
The solar vent is your answer. I bought one that I was going to install--was trying to find the right hole saw for less than a paycheck, and was undecided between the head and the forward hatch... then sold Passage and put the vent into Sarge--works great!

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OLarryR
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Response Posted - 08/21/2008 :  05:18:30  Show Profile  Visit OLarryR's Homepage
When I bought my boat, I noticed it also had a cover on a hole in the deck. This was up forward in the main cabin area. I took measurements of it and it seemed to be same dimension as the Nicro Vent products. I purchased a solar vent from WM, popped off the cover and replaced it with the solar vent - perfect fit. has been working fine for almost 3 years now.

This link should get you to some of the WM Nicro vents that they sell. I would also check with Defender.com and possibly some other companies, however, the benefit of going with WM is that if the vent does not fit, it is easy enough to bring it back to the store versus shipping back a product.

http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/SiteSearchView?catalogId=10001&Ntx=mode+matchallpartial&keyword=solar+vents&Ntt=solar+vents&N=377+710&storeId=10001&Ntk=Primary+Search&ddkey=SiteSearch

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Prospector
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Response Posted - 08/21/2008 :  07:01:44  Show Profile  Visit Prospector's Homepage
You guys thought that hole was for a vent? I thought it was how you fed the kids once you got them stuffed in the Vee berth. :)

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GaryB
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Response Posted - 08/21/2008 :  22:38:06  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by OLarryR</i>
<br />When I bought my boat, I noticed it also had a cover on a hole in the deck. This was up forward in the main cabin area. I took measurements of it and it seemed to be same dimension as the Nicro Vent products. I purchased a solar vent from WM, popped off the cover and replaced it with the solar vent - perfect fit. has been working fine for almost 3 years now.

This link should get you to some of the WM Nicro vents that they sell. I would also check with Defender.com and possibly some other companies, however, the benefit of going with WM is that if the vent does not fit, it is easy enough to bring it back to the store versus shipping back a product.

http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/SiteSearchView?catalogId=10001&Ntx=mode+matchallpartial&keyword=solar+vents&Ntt=solar+vents&N=377+710&storeId=10001&Ntk=Primary+Search&ddkey=SiteSearch
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Larry,

Which model do you have and where is it mounted in the cabin.

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stampeder
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Response Posted - 08/22/2008 :  12:48:40  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">What about as a mount for a forward cannon?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

most guys are going with Torpedoes these days. The deck cannon makes a C25 top heavy and anything over .30 cal impedes tacking. With torpedoes you can store them below or in the dumpster, plus you don't have to send the kids forward to fire the thing. Inspired by Frank H's install, I can fire my torpedos from the cockpit. All lines led aft, all firing controls aft.

As for that Nicro hole, I've got a 4" nicro hole that has a cover. The cover lets a little bit of light into the interior just where I need it - mine is located Ibetween the accordian doors in the head.

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Prospector
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Response Posted - 08/22/2008 :  13:33:28  Show Profile  Visit Prospector's Homepage
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by jerlim</i>
<br />What about as a mount for a forward cannon?
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Why go with a cannon when you can launch Surface to Air Missiles from there?

The problem is with the ideal location for Silo #2. I suggest directly over the head.

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