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James Simmons
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Initially Posted - 08/21/2008 :  13:55:06  Show Profile
I called Catalina Direct and they Faxed me instructions for the sealing kit they offer. The instructions are clear and do contain a simple schematic of the windows.


Thanks for the responses, everyone!

Would it make sense to try to get the instructions posted as a Technical Tip? Lots of people have questions regarding window sealing!

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Sloop Smitten
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Response Posted - 08/21/2008 :  18:31:54  Show Profile
James,
I don't want to be the one to rain on your parade but I take it you saw all the posts from people who purchased the CD kit and still had leaks? The bottom line is you need to seal between the window and the outer aluminum frame and then seal the outer aluminum frame to the fiberglass. Any solution will fail if those two seals are ompromised. Whichever solution you come up with I would seal the window to the frame first and let it dry. Then seal the window/frame to the fiberglass. Both those seals are critical. Not bad-mouthing the CD kit but bringing to light where it, or any other solution, might fail.

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James Simmons
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Response Posted - 08/21/2008 :  18:52:17  Show Profile
Thanks for your input, Joe.

The CD kit instructions call for a bead of sealant in the 'U' of the glazing channel before inserting the glass. After that, a bead of sealant is called for along the inside of the window gap of the aluminum frame. The glazing channel just seems to be a 'bed' for the glass and wouldn't offer any sealing capability without the additional beads of sealant per above. Then, of course, the entire window is reseated against the fiberglass.

Sure seems like it ought to work if properly done.

If you see any 'holes' in this procedure please let me know. I did read that some preferred to seal the glass directly to the frame in some fashion. I am afraid if I tried that I would have the sealant all over myself and the boat before finishing!

Thanks again.

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Kendall
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Response Posted - 08/21/2008 :  19:08:01  Show Profile
James, If it isnt too much trouble could you email me those schematics? Or even post them here?

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James Simmons
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Response Posted - 08/21/2008 :  20:06:10  Show Profile
Unfortunately I have hard copies. Will be glad to FAX, however!

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James Simmons
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Response Posted - 08/21/2008 :  21:27:31  Show Profile
This is my first time to post an image. Here goes!


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James Simmons
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Response Posted - 08/21/2008 :  21:35:36  Show Profile
Second try!


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Kendall
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Response Posted - 08/21/2008 :  21:49:20  Show Profile
Cool Beans! Thanks.

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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 08/22/2008 :  18:56:37  Show Profile
FWIW, the flat rubber gasket material from CD that goes in the frame behind the glass and between the 2 metal frame pieces is really just cosmetic filler. As stated above, the real water seal is in the channel where the glass meets the outer frame, and where the outer frame meets the fiberglass of the cabin top.

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