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lwirth
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Initially Posted - 08/18/2008 :  13:27:51  Show Profile
I have an 85 TR with an outboard engine that does not recharge my battery when it is running. The battery tends to lose power as the season progresses and I then need to take it ashore for recharging. I do have shore power available at my slip and was wondering if there are some practical inexpensive solutions to keeping the battery charged all season without having to take it ashore. Thanks, Larry

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jerlim
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Response Posted - 08/18/2008 :  14:18:33  Show Profile
I use the battery to power just the VHF and GPS mostly. I recharge the battery w/ a 7.5 w Sensei solar panel.

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John Russell
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Response Posted - 08/18/2008 :  15:10:07  Show Profile
If you have shore power at the slip, why not just take your battery charger out to the boat with you once in a while and leave it there overnight? Alternatively, you could spend a lot of money and buy a permanently mounted charger and all its components and just plug into the slip when you come in each time.

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 08/18/2008 :  17:06:45  Show Profile  Visit Frank Hopper's Homepage
Few Catalina 25 sailors run their engines enough that the alternator accomplishes much of anything. Charging a Battery can be done for the price of an appropriate extension cord plus under $40 for a little maintainer, (which seem to charge batteries just fine), to well over $500 if you are buying all marine grade / permanent installation components.
If you go the extension cord route you will feel better about it if you get the right cord, 12 gauge or better.

and make sure there is a ground fault in the line. My dock uses ground fault outlets at every power pedestal so a person could get by with just a cord but I used one of these too.


... these photos are from the Home Depot site.

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Patrice C25
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Response Posted - 08/19/2008 :  10:34:27  Show Profile
Hi,

This is what I do too. Have a standard extension to the boat, then I plug a computer type extension, with power surge (breaker) protection and use this one to plug what ever is required. ex;battery charger...

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tbosch
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Response Posted - 08/19/2008 :  11:26:08  Show Profile
I assume that you are talking about using clip on battery charger, maintainer (trickle charger) that you would use at home. This is what I use as well. I have never left it connected in maintainer mode when away from the boat for a week or two. Am I being over cautious? Is there anyone out there that leaves it connected while away? Is anyone violently opposed to doing this?

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Todd
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broudbrun
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Response Posted - 08/19/2008 :  11:37:20  Show Profile  Visit broudbrun's Homepage
Once we have our battery fully charged we keep it charged almost year round with a solar panel. Of course we have sunshine continually!

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 08/19/2008 :  12:51:07  Show Profile
To use your shore power with a standard outdoor extension cord, you'll probably also need something like [url="http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/producte/10001/-1/10001/57557/377%20710/0/Shore%20Power/Primary%20Search/mode%20matchallpartial/10/0?N=377%20710&Ne=0&Ntt=Shore%20Power&Ntk=Primary%20Search&Ntx=mode%20matchallpartial&Nao=10&Ns=0&keyword=Shore%20Power&isLTokenURL=true&storeNum=5002&subdeptNum=9&classNum=311"]this[/url] to plug into the dock outlet:


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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 08/19/2008 :  12:57:05  Show Profile  Visit Frank Hopper's Homepage
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Patrice C25</i>
<br />Hi,

This is what I do too. Have a standard extension to the boat, then I plug a computer type extension, with power surge (breaker) protection and use this one to plug what ever is required. ex;battery charger...

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Power strips have always played a roll on my boats but the surge protection feature is not related to the ground fault function. It is a mistake not to use a ground fault at a place in the circuit that will take the entire circuit down. Once again this is presuming an extension cord set-up as opposed to a proper shorepower installation with a proper power panel.

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Renzo
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Response Posted - 08/19/2008 :  13:41:13  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by tbosch</i>
<br />I assume that you are talking about using clip on battery charger, maintainer (trickle charger) that you would use at home. This is what I use as well. I have never left it connected in maintainer mode when away from the boat for a week or two. Am I being over cautious? Is there anyone out there that leaves it connected while away? Is anyone violently opposed to doing this?

Thanks,
Todd
1980 C25 SR/FK
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I use a similar method but I don't feel comfortable leaving it unattended. So I usually recharge the battery when I know I'm going to be at my marina for the day, working on the boat, or at a guest marina, while on a club cruise. Too many things can go wrong with a temporary charging hook-up that can result in fires or exploded batteries if not checked during charges.

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Patrice C25
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Response Posted - 08/19/2008 :  14:25:45  Show Profile
Hi,
I would also be afraid to leave the standard charger, not a permanent installation, plug-in without being around. I usally plug it in when arriving at marina in the evening and will spend the nite at the dock...

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Voyager
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Response Posted - 08/19/2008 :  23:40:48  Show Profile
So far, my two 1A solar panels have kept the battery topped off. In my power budget, I use the VHF (1A), an FM radio (1A), the depth finder and knot meter (0.5A) and occasionally the cabin lights (4A). I have no refrigeration or AC, don't have a TV, usually don't go out at night so I don't need the Nav lights.

I sometimes use my laptop on board (6A) and this will bring down the battery. But two or three days of bright sun will top the battery off again.

I have no shorepower, so occasionally I need to bring the battery home for a good overnight 6A charge in the garage. But so far this summer, I haven't had to do that.

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