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delliottg
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Initially Posted - 09/13/2008 :  20:17:49  Show Profile  Visit delliottg's Homepage
I've got my rig tuned where it like it now, so I went down to the boat today to pin my turnbuckles. I bought some new SS cotter pins and when I tried to install them, I realized that I can't get the SS tubes that slide down over the turnbuckles down past the cotter pins. So, that got me wondering, how do you guys pin your turnbuckles? I'm thinking SS safety wire now instead of cotter pins.
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Response Posted - 09/13/2008 :  21:26:13  Show Profile  Visit britinusa's Homepage
The tubes fit fine over our cotter pinned turnbuckles. Perhaps you could use a thinner cotter pin.
I bend our down using the tube.

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Response Posted - 09/13/2008 :  23:57:12  Show Profile
Here's a link http://floridasailingresource.com/easy-method-to-secure-a-turnbuckle/on using SS welding rod to secure turnbuckles, plus some discussion on it: http://www.ssca.org/DiscBoard/viewtopic.php?t=6168& postdays=0& postorder=asc& start=0& sid=416a27ed9f88ac617faed7dd57dcd4aa Interesting...!
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delliottg
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Response Posted - 09/14/2008 :  12:03:07  Show Profile  Visit delliottg's Homepage
Hah! I like the welding rod idea. I was thinking about using safety wire in relatively the same way, several wraps between holes, but a single, thicker rod seems like a good way to accomplish several things. The turnbuckles are pinned, the ends of the rod are inside the diameter of the turnbuckle body so they can't snag, and you can remove them easily when it's time to drop the mast, and possibly re-use them, although I'm unlikely to do that.

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Tom Potter
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Response Posted - 09/14/2008 :  13:00:34  Show Profile
Dave,
I haven't had a problem with the cotter pins in the turn buckles. As you know our (250) turnbuckles have a narrow slot on one side and a wider slot on the other side. I feed the pin in on the narrow slot side, thru the hole and then spread the pin in the wide slot. I spread the pin tangs parallel with the wide slot. This allows the turnbuckle SS cover to slide up and down easy.

The bent pin tangs never protrude past the outer diameter of the brass turnbuckle body.
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delliottg
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Response Posted - 09/14/2008 :  14:04:13  Show Profile  Visit delliottg's Homepage
Maybe the cotter pins I bought were the wrong size, I sized them to fit the holes which seemed like the way to go, but I couldn't get the tubes down over the rounded end of the pins.
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Response Posted - 09/14/2008 :  15:13:50  Show Profile
A friend suggested using cable "zip" ties. What do you guys think?
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Response Posted - 09/15/2008 :  09:10:17  Show Profile
I use SS Cotter Rings wherever it is possible.
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Response Posted - 09/30/2008 :  10:39:31  Show Profile
Safety wire is the locking method of choice for many things on my airplane. But cotter pins are used too. New cotter pins are supposed to be used every time on airplanes. So be careful about reusing a pin more than once or twice.
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GaryB
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Response Posted - 09/30/2008 :  20:26:36  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by jbkayaker</i>
<br />Safety wire is the locking method of choice for many things on my airplane. But cotter pins are used too. New cotter pins are supposed to be used every time on airplanes. So be careful about reusing a pin more than once or twice.
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What kind of plane?
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