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EAbrams
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Initially Posted - 09/23/2008 : 12:22:21

I just bought a (yet to be delivered) Nissan 9.8 NSF9.8A3EF4 outboard. I’ve search several online vendors web sites and the stated weight seems to be from a low of 93.5 to a high of 96 lbs. I intend to weigh it when it is delivered.

I want to replace my old motor mount with [url="http://www.catalinadirect.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=category.display&category_id=84"]Catalina Direct's (3 or 4 spring) motor mount[/url]

Since the stated weight is so close to upper limit of 95 lbs for the 3 spring and the lower limit of 95 lbs for the 4 spring I’m looking for anyone who has the following combination of outboard / motor mount.

Who has the Nissan/Tohatsu 9.8 outboard AND either the three spring or four spring Catalina Direct motor mount. If you have the three spring is it hard to pull up and if you have the four spring do you have to use your foot to push it down. (as stated in other posts over the years).

Here is a [url="http://www.catalina-capri-25s.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=17699&SearchTerms=Garhauer"]link[/url] to a posting this spring and it only added to my confusion. The last 3 of 4 posts got me.

Ed & Michele
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Peconic Bay, Long Island NY &
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Response Posted - 09/23/2008 : 13:22:31

Ed,
I will let those who actually own that engine chime in but I do know it is a lot easier to hoist a few extra pounds with those mounts then it is to push an engine down which is to light. I have the 3 spring model with my old Honda 8 LS and if it weighed 5 more pounds it would be about perfect. As it is now I have to give it a firm shove to get to the bottom latching position. If I was in your shoes I would go with the 3 spring model since it is rated to 95 lbs.

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Response Posted - 09/23/2008 : 16:32:40

Thanks Joe

Just got off the phone with the trucking company. They have the motor here on Long Island and it is only Tuesday morning. Delivery is set up for Thursday. Wow I only ordered it late Sunday night.

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Response Posted - 09/23/2008 : 17:03:47

Ed,
I guess I'm one of the guys that confused the issue for you. We have the Tohatsu 9.8 XLS as well as the Garelick mount. After using both for several months I give two thumbs up for the Garelick (and Tohatsu) which is roughly the same price as the four spring Garhauer. It's very beefy, and it's pretty easy to both raise & lower the engine, which I'm quite pleased with. I'm not familiar with the Garhauer, but can easily recommend the Garelick.

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Response Posted - 09/23/2008 : 17:16:32

I've got that same motor. You're going to love it! Just remember to not overfill the engine oil. It will not take a full quart. If you do not receive a 800ml bottle with the motor, add 3/4 qt and check the dipstick. Add a little more oil gradually and recheck frequently until full.

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Response Posted - 09/23/2008 : 17:24:57

Good advice, and better to not [url="http://www.catalina-capri-25s.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=17701&SearchTerms=broke,motor"]drain it and start it without oil in it[/url]. (apologies to Paul for dredging up this difficult subject)

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Response Posted - 09/23/2008 : 18:49:12

I have owned both the Garelick and the CD (Garhauer) and the CD is the better unit for a Catalina 25 because of its drop, both have excellent rise. The drop is so good that I never used the lowest notch position.

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Response Posted - 09/23/2008 : 22:04:25

I have the Honda 9.9 with the Garhauer 4 spring model. The Honda is ~ 107 lbs. In the beginning, I was having aheck of a time getting the bracket to release from the lower locking position. I wound up leaving it in that position a few times overnight and then about a week later it seemed to free up. Now it is a good match because it is fairly easy to raise the outboard. Though, I have to push the handle with my foot to unlock it from the lower position, it is with not too much pressure. Just a bit more than I can push it with my hand. Then the bracket pops up about 5-6" and I raise it by hand from that position. Lowering it by hand to the lower locking position is not that hard but requires a smooth continuous motion.

Since your outboard is lighter, the 3 spring model may be a better option for you. Checking Catalina Direct website for the 3 spring bracket, 95 lbs seems to be the dividing line between going with the 3 spring or going with the 4 spring. Given time...like a couple of years or so, the bracket spring will relax but just a tad.

You have right idea from your original post...need to get others with same outboard to weigh in on their experiences some with the 3 spring and some with the 4 spring bracket.

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Response Posted - 09/23/2008 : 22:44:37

This is somewhat interesting...

Today, I called Garhauer concerning motor mounts (they no longer list them on their web site) and they said they only sell the two spring model. Their price was $170.50 while CD sells it for $289.00.

You might be able talk Garhauer into selling you any of their mounts. It might be cheaper.

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Response Posted - 09/24/2008 : 15:22:21

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by delliottg
 Ed,
I guess I'm one of the guys that confused the issue for you. We have the Tohatsu 9.8 XLS as well as the Garelick mount. After using both for several months I give two thumbs up for the Garelick (and Tohatsu) which is roughly the same price as the four spring Garhauer. It's very beefy, and it's pretty easy to both raise & lower the engine, which I'm quite pleased with. I'm not familiar with the Garhauer, but can easily recommend the Garelick.
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Actually Dave it was the last post because the fella stated the 4 spring his friend owned was a Garlick (sp) and I believe he meant Garhauer. Or did he?

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Response Posted - 09/24/2008 : 15:36:09

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by dlucier
 This is somewhat interesting...

Today, I called Garhauer concerning motor mounts (they no longer list them on their web site) and they said they only sell the two spring model. Their price was $170.50 while CD sells it for $289.00.

You might be able talk Garhauer into selling you any of their mounts. It might be cheaper.
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That would be a great deal if the 3 spring was still available. However didn't someone once post that Garhauer makes the mounts for Catalina Direct, lining up the holes on the bracket with the existing holes on the transom. No drilling involved. I like K.I.S.S.

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Response Posted - 09/24/2008 : 15:48:19

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by dmpilc
 I've got that same motor. You're going to love it! Just remember to not overfill the engine oil. It will not take a full quart. If you do not receive a 800ml bottle with the motor, add 3/4 qt and check the dipstick. Add a little more oil gradually and recheck frequently until full.
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Thanks, looking forward to the new Nissan.

I have only sailed a 24 footer into the slip once. That was during my US Sailing Basic Keelboat course 3 years ago. It went very nice... dropped the sails and coasted right into the slip. My current slip is up a canal that twists and turns and is almost too difficult to sail into. Having a reliable engine for the last 1/4 mile is almost a necessity. The admiral will be happy too.

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Response Posted - 09/24/2008 : 16:18:05

And thanks to everyone else for their input.

I missed that post about Paul's engine. Ouch! Did he ever get his seized engine to work?

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Response Posted - 09/24/2008 : 21:10:37

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by EAbrams
 That would be a great deal if the 3 spring was still available. However didn't someone once post that Garhauer makes the mounts for Catalina Direct,...<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Yes, Garhauer does indeed build the CD mounts, all versions, but you can only buy the two spring version from Garhauer directly.

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