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John Russell
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Response Posted - 10/25/2008 : 18:40:29

didn't work for me either, Paul.

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delliottg
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Response Posted - 10/25/2008 : 20:03:40

Paul,
I can't get it to work either:

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description The requested resource (Resource Not Found) is not available.
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britinusa
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Response Posted - 10/26/2008 : 07:49:02

It's fixed (now on Utube)

Paul

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delliottg
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Response Posted - 10/26/2008 : 10:10:19

Now that's good TV!

Did you ever figure out what happened with your first CO2 cylinder? It sounds like it was fired and re-packed w/o changing the cylinder or pill? Gremlins? Grandchildren? I know when mine fired by itself due to humidity (I think), it was pretty obvious that it had. Did you check the cylinder & indicators prior to your first test? If so, did they show they were OK, and there simply was no gas to be released? That's a scary thought. I guess you could weigh the cylinder, test it & weigh it afterwards, then weigh the replacement to make sure it had a charge.

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 10/26/2008 : 16:35:52

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Champipple
 <blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by dlucier
 If you want to jump over the side with a life jacket on, I don't really see what the big deal is. For years, my kids, their friends, my nieces/nephews, and myself, have routinely jumped over the side. We call it swim call.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">It all depends on the water temp, the sea conditions etc. We go swimming all the time too.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
There's one big difference: whether the boat is standing still or under sail. An MOB drill is in large part an exercise in sailing a boat back to something in the water, and bringing it to a stop so a "rescue" can be performed. That should be practiced on both upwind and downwind courses.

My feeling, FWIW, is that putting an actual person in the water to perform that part of the exercise is a little like setting a house on fire to practice your escape routes. Use a cushion or fender to work on the maneuvers under sail, and then work on the rescue techniques while at anchor (like a "swim call"). Yes, the real thing will be more complicated, but practicing the components does a lot to prepare you. Don't risk injuring a person to practice saving people.

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Response Posted - 10/26/2008 : 19:18:57

Dave, you guessed, I had not inspected the state of the auto system!

I think it was a worthwhile test.
As a result, I'll inspect the cartidge and and auto and manual tell-tale every trip.

Knowing how the lifevest feels when inflated was also worth it: It's solid! I keep the waste band pretty snug, but any tighter and I think it might cause problems.

So I would recommend that folks try out their pfd at least once a year and, yep, dunk in a pool!

Peggy's vest cartridge has now expired also, so we'll get 3 recharge kits: Peggy can dunk her's(I'll inspect it beforehand) and I'll have a spare for each vest after recharging hers.

Paul

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OLarryR
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Response Posted - 10/27/2008 : 17:12:10

There was a story this past week regarding a tragedy in my neck of the woods involving water rescue. I think it was Virginia Fire & Rescue practicing rescue missions in the Potomac River off of Pohick Bay Regional Park area. They had a veteran who was the volunteer to be the victim and wound up dying. I believe he had a jacket on to protect against the cold but I do not believe it was a safety jacket with positive flotation. Apparently, shortly after he was in the water and the team(s) went out to rescue him, they could not find him. They searched for almost a week and I heard they found him a day or so ago in the water just about 100 ft away from where they were practicing the rescues. The Potomac River is not clear, it is extremely dark from all the mud stirred up and makes it almost impossible to find anyone or thing once it goes into the drink.

So, here is an example of professionals practicing and it became the emergency.

I found a news clip on it....
http://www.wjla.com/news/stories/1008/563955.html

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JohnP
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Response Posted - 10/27/2008 : 20:57:17

This story was so sad, with a 19-year law enforcement veteran paying the ultimate price for volunteering to take part in a helicopter rescue practise exercise. The story in the Washington Post last Friday explained that the officer was wearing a dry suit, which would have given him flotation, but if the suit had not fit correctly, there could have been air pockets in the legs or feet that might have flipped him over in the water.

I'm convinced that a volunteer rescue victim is a bad idea.

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 10/27/2008 : 21:58:05

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Dave Bristle
 Don't risk injuring...<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">...or killing...<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">...a person to practice saving people.
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