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Prospector
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Response Posted - 12/09/2008 :  07:30:47  Show Profile  Visit Prospector's Homepage
John,

We have a similar setup. We support the mast at the bow pulpit, and at the back of the cockpit. We also found tht a 4X4 fits the mast step nicely, and can be trimmed to height to keep the mast high and level. Our arrangement is such that wecan open the pop-top under the tarp to make it more comfortable to do winter projects.

KiteKramer:
As for knocking snow off, I don't think I would worry about one week of unattended boat. If you are really worried, go and clear it off the day before you leave, and then go back and check on it the day you come back. Of course I don't live in Oregon, so your snow loads may be more than mine.

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Deric
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Response Posted - 12/14/2008 :  15:52:59  Show Profile
I had snow last week on the tarp on my boat. It slid off and so far the new tarp is still in tack. I count the days when the snow season has passed.

It would be great if I had a large garage next to my home garage. A garage that was big enough to drive the boat in from the back door, a garage complete with lights, cement floor, heating, a fridge, coffee pot, stereo, and complete with all the correct types of tools for winter boat projects... I'll keep playing the NYS Lottery.

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Deric

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Prospector
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Response Posted - 12/15/2008 :  08:39:05  Show Profile  Visit Prospector's Homepage
Deric,

I am secretly building just such a beast. It is hard to hide it from my wife, but she hasn't figured it out yet, and I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

We heat our house with wood, so every time we order a cord of firewood I build a frame to measure/store the wood on (8' X 4' X 4' per cord). A garage for a C-25 would need to be at least 30' X 20'. I figure that so far I have the framing for the end wall around the garage door, the 8' boards in the firewood frames will be the opposite end and sidewalls. This year we ordered 4 cords of wood at the start of winter and I built 4 frames to store it in - but, Thanks be to God, it arrived wet so it won't burn. We have to store it for a season, and order 4 more cords to get us through this winter. Lets see - thats 8 more 4'X4' end sections, held together by 32 more 2X4's. In the spring I'll be dismantling a shed for a friend, more lumber there.

Once herself figures out what's going on, the gig's up, but I figure I can get as far as building the frame before she sees the light. I mean really, wouldn't it be better to store the firewood under a roof? Its justifying a garage door thats big enough for a boat to drive through that will be tricky. BTW - a pressure treated foundation with patio stones is easier to sneak home in the back of a truck than concrete...

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Nautiduck
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Response Posted - 12/15/2008 :  20:23:19  Show Profile
Here is what we do. I have found that it is best to not have the tarp tight against the hull. Otherwise mildew occurs. This is the second season for this 20' X 30' tarp.




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KiteKraemer
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Response Posted - 12/15/2008 :  23:59:54  Show Profile  Visit KiteKraemer's Homepage
never did I think about mold! Oh great.

Do you guys think the mast bends over the winter
being supported on just the ends? I'm able to use a fender to support the middle so it stays straight... I can easily raise the stern end- but then I have no support for the center...


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britinusa
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Response Posted - 12/16/2008 :  04:57:35  Show Profile  Visit britinusa's Homepage
Randy, 2 year old tarp! Wow. Ours lasts about 3 months, after that the material starts to break down, the boat is covered in silver powder and the tarp will split anywhere it touches the top of the boat (specifically, that's along the mast).

I keep wondering if it would handle a coat of elastomeric, of if that would make it a rock!

Paul

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Nautiduck
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Response Posted - 12/16/2008 :  12:35:47  Show Profile
I built a mast support out of PVC pipe. It attaches to the mast step and supports the mast high enough for a good tent and easy access to the cockpit and cabin. I run a rope through the top components of the support in order to tie secure the mast to the support. Also the bottom of the support is a PVC "T" which adds stability to the support. This support is in place when we tow and all winter of course. Bear in mind that a C250 trailer has a mast tower that the front end of the mast rests on. There is also a transom-mounted mast crutch. The setup is solid.


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KiteKraemer
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Response Posted - 12/17/2008 :  00:45:51  Show Profile  Visit KiteKraemer's Homepage
Randy As always--Thanks for showing me the light. I'll bungie the tarp to my trailor instead and call it a naughty move. I'd make modifications to my setup, but am severly overworked right now. I dont' think it's too late.

I know old man winter, and he's giving us some trouble. This year I didn't use RV antifreeze in the rig
and just this week I've had 2 pipes burst at my home in portland, or. I can only pray nothing cracks on
the boat.

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Nautiduck
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Response Posted - 12/17/2008 :  12:42:30  Show Profile
Kite, we've had some bad weather down here in Eugene and some more on the way. But, it always seems worse in Portland. Best of luck to you.

For those of you not familiar with the PNW, it looks like Kite sails on the Columbia at Hood River which is a wind surfing mecca. Big winds there!

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dblitz
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Response Posted - 12/18/2008 :  12:10:39  Show Profile
Home Depot has the self-stick zippers for poly tarps but the tarp has to be new or newer to for the zipper to stick.

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Deric
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Response Posted - 12/19/2008 :  20:32:18  Show Profile
Chris,

I like your idea of building boat garage with the idea that at some point you will be so far along that your wife will logically, of course, have to agree that it is ok. Sounds good to me.

I wouldn't mind tracking your progress. Just post a few pics.

My tarps last a year, and then I have to get a new one. At least I don't pay taxes on a tarp covered boat. Well only four months and two weeks.

Deric

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KiteKraemer
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Response Posted - 12/20/2008 :  20:14:20  Show Profile  Visit KiteKraemer's Homepage
spent most of the day down there. contemplating cutting the tarp to fit below the stantions. We're getting slammed. 6" snow in portland- so far tonight. almost unheard of. Everything is frozen solid.

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Old Disco Queen
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Response Posted - 12/25/2008 :  17:53:19  Show Profile
I like the "look" of KireKraemer's tarp. I did that last season on Old Disco and put her out by the barn near the corn fields. The wind literally ripped it to small threads!!! This year just letting her be on her own and will see what damage I need to repair. The winds of North Henderson Illinois in the winter are brutal in the countryside. And the ice and snow right now is...UUUGGGHHH!!!! Have already fallen on ice 4 times. Hope these 50 year old hips of mine hold out! Ha! Stephen

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