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delliottg
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Initially Posted - 01/11/2009 : 19:03:21

Just read about this in another forum: http://www.ultrasonic-antifouling.com/. This would pay for itself in about three or so bottom paintings for our boats, faster with larger boats.

David
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John Russell
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Response Posted - 01/11/2009 : 19:52:46

I saw it the other day, too. At the current exchange rate, that's about $1200 US. I think the VAT (currently 17.5%)would be avoided if you buy it outside the UK but I'm not sure about that. If not, add on another $200.

I'm a little wary since there aren't any US distributors listed. Not that they don't make great stuff in the UK, it's just that customer service might be an issue. I think I'll wait until it crosses the pond.

Sure does sound interesting though. Looking forward to seeing some future reports.

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britinusa
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Response Posted - 01/11/2009 : 20:24:41

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by John Russell
 I think I'll wait until it crosses the pond.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Don't hold your breath! I've been hoping that None Drip Paint would cross the pond to the USA, hasn't happened in 40 years. Same thing with Metric System (poor confused schoolkids!)

If it did hit the USA, you would have to think that the price would drop significantly due to the huge marketplace over here.

Paul

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britinusa
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Response Posted - 01/11/2009 : 20:28:37

And then if you do a google!
http://www.blueandgreenmarine.com/how-it-works.html

Another model (claims to be the first) and draws tiny amps!

Paul

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delliottg
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Response Posted - 01/11/2009 : 21:03:36

If it works as well as advertised, it would be pretty impressive, and like you said there'd be a huge market here in the US. The pictures on the second site of the RIB seem to speak for themselves.

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newmanjr1
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Response Posted - 01/12/2009 : 14:59:32

We have a US distributor for ultrasonic antifouling equipment, checkout www.envirosonic.eu for details of our systems. They are a little more expensive than the ultrasonic antifouling people, but then they copied our idea in the first place! Blue and Green Marine is very expensive, £3000 or so for a 40 footer, also a copy of our system, so not sure how they could have been the first, please contact me for any information, delighted to help

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Ed Cassidy
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Response Posted - 01/12/2009 : 16:18:03

I would recommend a thorough investigation before committing to this type of science. According to the FTC, it doesn't seem to work that well on bugs or moles!

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Response Posted - 01/12/2009 : 21:04:08

According to our shed it does little for mice either.

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Turk
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Response Posted - 01/20/2009 : 05:34:33

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by newmanjr1
 We have a US distributor for ultrasonic antifouling equipment, checkout www.envirosonic.eu for details of our systems. They are a little more expensive than the ultrasonic antifouling people, but then they copied our idea in the first place! Blue and Green Marine is very expensive, £3000 or so for a 40 footer, also a copy of our system, so not sure how they could have been the first, please contact me for any information, delighted to help
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This link shows a model that uses 40 watts of power not recommended for a mooring. Certainly not the low power of the other model. Different technology? Digital vs analogue?

This is very intriguing technology. I am skeptical. Can someone just buy one and let us know how it works for them?

Edited by - Turk on 01/20/2009 05:35:21

BCBarron
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Response Posted - 01/20/2009 : 09:14:58

I have been looking into this a little. The cruising forum came up with some rather disapointing results (link below).

http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/f55/ultrasonic-algae-control-v-antifouling-17969.html

Brent

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GaryB
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Response Posted - 01/20/2009 : 12:47:21

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by newmanjr1
 We have a US distributor for ultrasonic antifouling equipment, checkout www.envirosonic.eu for details of our systems. They are a little more expensive than the ultrasonic antifouling people, but then they copied our idea in the first place! Blue and Green Marine is very expensive, £3000 or so for a 40 footer, also a copy of our system, so not sure how they could have been the first, please contact me for any information, delighted to help
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If you want to donate a system to tryout on my C25 I'll be the guinea pig. I've got about 2-1/2 years on my bottom job in saltwater and the boat hasn't been out of the water in about 15 months for cleaning so it would be a good test subject.

Let me know if your interested!

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aeronox
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Response Posted - 03/05/2009 : 18:28:17

http://www.boatsure.com.au

yet another website... how do we know which (if any) work?!

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islander
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Response Posted - 03/05/2009 : 18:59:33

Probably makes whales want to beach themselves

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newmanjr1
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Response Posted - 04/07/2009 : 13:55:41

I have been asked by Blue and Green Marine to retract my statement in my last posting about their unit being a copy of ours. I still stand by the statement that they were not the first, as this type of system was patented in 1907 by a French inventor and developed by Marconi in the second world war for submarines. Unfortunately, as you know, ultrasound can be detected by other submarines so the system was not fitted as standard! Blue & Green knew about our system for about 9 months before theirs was made and we even showed them our units about six months before theirs were launched. However, as theirs are so obviously aesthetically different to ours, I do not think they can be a direct copy.

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piseas
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Response Posted - 04/07/2009 : 14:06:13

David, The environmental issues is what interests me. How about this: I will offer to be a guinea pig to test this product. The Association would pay and I would report back to the members. Good idea? And how about a wireless version. A too am surprised no US distributors. This would sell like hotcakes.
I wonder if the same guy I saw on a Dateline TV show selling an attachment to your car that would double your miles is related to this company? Naw, anyone involved in boating, unlike the auto sales industry, are honest and ethical individuals. Seriously, I can't see why this would not work, do you?

Steve A

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 04/07/2009 : 23:52:35

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by piseas
 Seriously, I can't see why this would not work, do you?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">Electricity (or lack thereof).

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piseas
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Response Posted - 04/08/2009 : 16:09:19

Dave, your response is shocking to me!

(Pun intended) I am glad to here in theory you think it should work. I see those sound wave thingy's that plug into your wall that scare/remove cockroaches, etc. Same principle, right?
Sounds like time for a survey, how many of you out there have no electricity, in any form, on your boat?
Steve A

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StSimon
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Response Posted - 04/08/2009 : 23:44:33

OK, no more haul outs? No more bottom jobs? Count me in!!!

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Prospector
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Response Posted - 04/09/2009 : 16:41:18

I find it hard to believe tht this technology would be any more successful than the ultrasonic mouse repellants I have bought in the past.

Those worked best if there was a traditional mousetrap set up next to them.

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