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Navy1
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Initially Posted - 01/14/2009 :  10:55:17  Show Profile
Hi, I am interested in getting a larger headsail, or Genoa for my 2004 C250WB, and/or an "asymetrical" spinaker. I am confused as to what size of each I can use on my boat. I need to know the luff, leach & foot sizes, etc. I am a cruiser, not a racer, and interested mostly in downwind performance. Since I am 72 years old, I am not as agile as I used to be, so which kind of sail would be better for my cruising? Thanks - Roger

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John Russell
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Response Posted - 01/14/2009 :  13:59:56  Show Profile
Roger,
I'm very happy with my 135% Genoa from [url="http://www.nationalsail.com/"]National Sail[/url] located in Florida. It's a [url="http://www.rollytasker.com/"]Rolly Tasker [/url] sail made in Thailand. I'm pleased with the workmanship and the service provided by National Sail was great.

Here's my rationale for a 135%. I wanted a larger headsail for light wind days. My choices were a 135%, 150% and/or a "Drifter" (a.k.a. Asymetrical Spinaker) I decided that while the 150% would certainly give me the light wind performance that I wanted, It was just more sail than I wanted to handle in moderate to heavier winds. Since I had no intention of taking sails on and off the furler, I realized that the 150% would be furled much of the time thereby sacrificing sail shape. Kinda defeats the reasoning to purchase it. In hindsight, I think my choice was correct. The C250 is a light wind boat and I think that it would be easily overpowered by a 150%. It is not headsail driven like the C25.

So, my final decision was to purchase the 135% and put a "Drifter" on my "someday" list. I think this makes more sense for those of us that aren't interested in as much physical exertion as maybe we once were. The cloth weight of the drifter is such that it's not a big burden to launch and can be launched using the jib halyard that is currently unused on my 250 with the CDI furler. And, the lighter cloth weight is a plus on those <i>very </i> light wind days.

Anyway, that was my logic. Hope it helps.

Edited by - John Russell on 01/14/2009 14:04:03
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pa-sailor
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Response Posted - 01/14/2009 :  18:10:02  Show Profile
To John Re; Rogers original post

I apprecisate your comments as to why you went with the 135 jib over the 150. I have been thinking of this reto as well to help in light winds. Altought I am a cruiser not a racer, most of the boats I sail with can leave me well behind in winds less than 10 knots.
Bob

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wmoneda
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Response Posted - 04/22/2009 :  14:58:53  Show Profile
Have you used your 135% yet? I have a 1995 250 WB and just bought a new 135%. Did you have to extend your jib car track to accomodate it. My tracks are shorter than later years so I think I need to extend the tracks to use it. Any thoughts or comments on how you have yours rigged would be much appreciated.

Willie

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John Russell
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Response Posted - 04/22/2009 :  15:36:47  Show Profile
I used it all of last season. No, I did not extend my tracks. I liked the performance I got. I'm a low tech sailor. I throw the rags up and figure out where the wind is and go. I trim my sails so that I am comfortable on the boat. Some days, that may be 20degrees over but, most days, I'd rather be pretty flat. I'm happy with the ability to furl easily to a smaller headsail and still get the performance I want.

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Nautiduck
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Response Posted - 04/22/2009 :  16:14:06  Show Profile
We're also very happy with our furling 135. It accomodates a lot of different conditions quite well.

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DaveR
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Response Posted - 04/24/2009 :  13:24:10  Show Profile  Visit DaveR's Homepage
I bought a 155 for my 89 C-25 and it's a handful to fold and put away at the end of the day. If I had it to do over again I'd go with a 135 for sure and have it cut so it flew above the lifelines.

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Steve Blackburn
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Response Posted - 04/24/2009 :  17:53:25  Show Profile  Visit Steve Blackburn's Homepage
I also bought a new 135%. I was fighting with the decision of going with a 150 or 135. What convinced me is that I know a C250 sails much fast when flat. The increased power of a 150 is not useful since it is lost in increased heeling thus breaking you down. If you would have very light winds then a 150 would help. Owners of C250 with multiple headsails have the 135% mounted about 95% of the time.

An Symmetrical spin will give you the best downwind performance but difficult to setup and down. An Asymmetrical spin is much easier to deploy and take down and could even be done from the cockpit with the proper lines setup (with a sock).

Have you tried poling out the jib with a Whisker pole? The increase in performance is quite amazing.

I race my C250, so I put lots of thinking into increasing its speed. Depending on your mobility/ability I would consider a 135% with a good whisker pole which I find the easiest to setup. An Asymmetrical is also good and possibly as easy since you don`t have to go to the deck to setup a whisker pole.

Do you single hand?

Edited by - Steve Blackburn on 04/24/2009 17:56:53
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