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redviking
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Initially Posted - 01/17/2009 : 11:49:51

I'm wondering if I was asleep or just missed all of the "Legalese" on the side and bottom of each page.

Did that newbie actually saw off most of the keel and rudder to make it fit better on his lawn and garden trailor from Sears that I told him about?

Oh, and um - he didn't lose the 75 HP motor mounted on the standard C25 mount did he? I told him it would be too heavy to pull up and down, so to just leave it in the down position.

Seriously, for those concerned, you can get a rider on your insurance to cover any board memberships, etc. wherein you could be construed liable. I've had it...

sten

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JimB517
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Response Posted - 01/17/2009 : 22:22:47

No, we are just making sure the Association is properly registered with the IRS and protected at least a little from lawsuits. I am being sued at the office. Makes you wonder.

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johnsonp
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Response Posted - 01/18/2009 : 05:09:20

I made Sue happy last night.

paulj

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redviking
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Response Posted - 01/19/2009 : 14:17:22

I made Sue happy last night.

Funniest response!

Got videos?

Ooops! Wrong site.

Yes, sadly the legal community is probably one industry that is economy independent... Good luck with that Jim. Remember you can always just sail away!

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jerlim
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Response Posted - 01/19/2009 : 18:23:46

"You know what they say about lawyers in a small town: If you have one, he starves to death, if you have two, they both get rich."

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britinusa
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Response Posted - 01/19/2009 : 20:19:23

FWIW, I am the author of the initial text 'Notice:'

Several of the officers had discussed the general issue of liability and we were pursuing the safety net similar to most other sailing forums.

The text as it stands at this time is likely to change. However I was exploring the the possible locations of the Notice.

Though I say so myself, I thought it pretty succinct. Some of the caveats that I have read on the net are more like monologues.

Chris suggested modifying the layout of the text to make it less overbearing. This is something that will be decided upon by committee which scares the heck out of me

The beauty of the web is it's ability to change.

Personally I'm already at the point where I don't notice the notice.

I'm sure it will be modified over the next few weeks.

And I'm glad that Sue was happy!

Now, back to sailing!

Paul

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redviking
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Response Posted - 01/20/2009 : 00:33:03

hmmmm.... quite amusing actually, but I understand the motivation...

Quite frankly, the ability for someone to suck dry an association is possible. I was on a motorcycle run wherein a big ass GoldWing went down on a gravel road and scuffed his shiny paint job and actually sued the organizers for not warning him that he would be riding on an "unimproved" road...

I still think everyone should shave extra inches off of the keel, remove the backstay, use the cow thing for sheets, AND leave the poptop open in rough conditions.

Send all legal communication to

ME C/O Sten

DPO Zephyr - '82 C25, FK, SR
SV Lysistrata - C&C 39 - on the hard - temporary timeout in Portland OR to care for mom

Good luck!

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Response Posted - 01/20/2009 : 04:48:48

I agree.

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jerlim
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Response Posted - 01/20/2009 : 13:05:05

Did the GoldWing win/collect?

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DaveR
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Response Posted - 01/20/2009 : 19:20:13

Hey Paul, how about a roll over drop down? And with the second thought I'm wondering what you would attach that roll over drop down to. Ah well, it'd be cool if you could work out the logistics.

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redviking
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Response Posted - 01/21/2009 : 13:37:05

Quote: "Did the GoldWing win/collect?"

Sadly, yes... Anytime money changes hands and someone sues for negligence, the odds are good that you will collect just because the costs of dealing with lawyers often exceeds the damages.

My company did some web work et al for a lawyer who has never been to court.

She just sends letters and makes phone calls and the insurance companies settle.

I think internet forums are a bit different legally. I've actually never seen a disclaimer on a sailing website, and perhaps never period. I mean really! and this has been said before, "uh your honor, Sten said it was a good idea to store my propane bottles on top of my vented gas tank locker, but he never said it was a bad idea to mount my ashtray just above the cockpit drain - ashtray on a gimbal to facilitate quick dumps, not to keep it level editor - so I accidently had an explosion because Sten was negligent because he did not warn me to keep my ashtray away from the gas tank. I lost my tiller fingers and scorched my balls in the aftermath. I need $ 7 zillion dollars, so I want Sten's C&C 39 - 'cuz it has a wheel, AND his wife, AND whatever money he has left after the economic revolt."

Gotta pull anchor and run...

bob

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Response Posted - 01/21/2009 : 19:58:54

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redviking
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Response Posted - 01/21/2009 : 22:07:53

had to change my name

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delliottg
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Response Posted - 01/21/2009 : 23:17:41

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Can she cook? Too bad I don't smoke, opportunity lost.

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josgood
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Response Posted - 01/25/2009 : 22:46:46

Sten's wifes name was Sue :)

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