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CaptainSam
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Initially Posted - 03/01/2009 : 21:23:37

Been puttin' around in powerboats for years, but just became the proud owner of C-25 (2852) down in Playas del Coco, Costa Rica. Just now gathering all the info I can. Know very little about sailing except I love it...

Can anyone tell me what year this beauty was built?

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Dave Bristle
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Djibouti
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Response Posted - 03/01/2009 : 21:49:27

Welcome Sam! If you scan through the "Owners" section (by the left margin), which is in hull number sequence, you'll find that it's a 1982. There are a few mis-labeled entries in there, but it's pretty obvious from the bulk of the boats built around your hull number.

Glad to have you aboard--join the association, use the Search function, look at the Tech Tips, post questions, and join in the chatter. It's the best sailing community on the web! (That's why I and many others selected the C-25, and why some of us never left after we moved on to other boats.)

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SteveRoberts
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Response Posted - 03/01/2009 : 22:34:48

Ooh, Costa Rica. Our family visited there a couple of years ago; beautiful. Welcome to the group. I think you'll find that our boats are easy to work on and pretty reliable. You'll come to appreciate all this as you get deeper into your 17-year-old boat.

-Steve

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CaptainSam
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Response Posted - 03/01/2009 : 22:43:16

Thanks guys... been searching around and so far have found a lot of good info... no new questions... this is great. But I am thinking about a sailing school... any suggestions?

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ddlyle
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Response Posted - 03/02/2009 : 07:39:34

Captain Sam,
Schools are good, but I'd recommend searching for a good book as an intro. Also, see if a dock neighbor will go out sailing with you and they could offer some guidance.
I liked "The Complete Sailor" by David Seidman.

PS...Steve ...try 27 year-old boat.

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Steve Milby
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Response Posted - 03/02/2009 : 08:45:02

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by CaptainSam
 Thanks guys... been searching around and so far have found a lot of good info... no new questions... this is great. But I am thinking about a sailing school... any suggestions?
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"> The American Sailing Association is a widely recognized organization that accredits sailing schools all over the US to ensure that they provide thorough and uniform sailing instruction. If you'll log onto their website and click on "Find a Sailing School," you'll find a list of accredited schools all over the US.
Their website is at: http://www.asa.com/sailing_schools.html

Even though they are all accredited, some will nevertheless be better than others, but any of them should provide thorough basic sailing instruction.

Two of the best known sailing schools are Annapolis Sailing School and Colgate Sailing School. I'm not sure whether they are ASA affiliated, but they both offer outstanding instruction. Their websites are at: http://www.offshore-sailing.com/
http://www.annapolissailing.com/

The Coast Guard Auxiliary and similar organizations also offer low-cost sailing courses that are well worthwhile, but they usually don't provide on-the-water instruction. You'll not only need on-the-water instruction, but you'll also want that instruction to be on a sloop-rigged sailboat, like the Catalina 25.

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PCP777
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Response Posted - 03/02/2009 : 10:59:43

Hey guys first post, just bought a 79 Catalina 25 tall rig with the fixed keel, I'm really excited to get back into sailing! I'm glad to find a forum for Catalina owners, I'm sure I'll be asking for allot of advice. It's been close to 30 years since I've sailed anything over 14' and taking her out yesterday with the guy that's selling her to me was terrific. We finalize the deal this Wednesday, anyway, good to meet all of you. I hope this pic isn't too big but here she is. I'll be sailing her in Lake ray Hubbard in Texas, about 30 minutes east of downtown Dallas.

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JohnP
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Response Posted - 03/02/2009 : 11:15:42

Sam,

Welcome to the C-25/C-250/Capri-25 Forum.

For a good introduction to sailing, try John Rousmaniere's "The Annapolis Book of Seamanship". And for info on your new old boat, this Forum is invaluable - try the search function for previous discussions about anything, from stem to stern.

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 03/02/2009 : 14:32:20

Welcome, Sam and Peter...Let the fun begin!

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PCP777
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Response Posted - 03/02/2009 : 14:33:30

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by dlucier
 Welcome, Sam and Peter...Let the fun begin!
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Thank you!!! I'm really looking forward to learning everything about my boat.

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 03/02/2009 : 14:40:37

Welcome Peter! Congratulations on picking a great boat! Maybe you know this, but to raise an old subject, have you had a survey done on her? It can be the best $350 (approx.) you'll spend on the boat. Usually this is done before closing the deal, so any major issues can be accounted for in the final price (or you can run away)... But even if it's later, it will give you a solid priority list of things to attend to, and a good feeling that you have a sound boat. Wet deck core, aged standing rigging, wiring issues, and a other things are hard for amateur eyes to pick up. (Remember, BOAT stands for Break Out Another Thousand.) You should attend the survey with a clipboard and pencil, and ask lots of questions. Some insurers require a survey for a boat over something like 10 years old, anyway.

Again, congratulations and welcome!

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PCP777
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Response Posted - 03/02/2009 : 14:52:59

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Dave Bristle
 Welcome Peter! Congratulations on picking a great boat! Maybe you know this, but to raise an old subject, have you had a survey done on her? It can be the best $350 (approx.) you'll spend on the boat. Usually this is done before closing the deal, so any major issues can be accounted for in the final price (or you can run away)... But even if it's later, it will give you a solid priority list of things to attend to, and a good feeling that you have a sound boat. Wet deck core, aged standing rigging, wiring issues, and a other things are hard for amateur eyes to pick up. (Remember, BOAT stands for Break Out Another Thousand.) You should attend the survey with a clipboard and pencil, and ask lots of questions. Some insurers require a survey for a boat over something like 10 years old, anyway.

Again, congratulations and welcome!
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You know I probably should have done that but I didn't but it really looks like she's been well taken care of. The sheets are all pretty new, the sails look good, she has a brand new mercury 9HP (2008), no water in the bilge, all the electrical works, all the word work and down below looks terrific in general so I just get the feeling that her current owner has done a terrific job taking care of her. She had a recent bottom job and I sailed on her for about 5 hours yesterday and didn't detect any problems. That being said your advice is good....I'm just not sure if I'll be able to work it in before the deal gets closed. By far out of all the boats I looked at she was head and shoulders in the best condition, especially considering her age. This weekend myself and the owner are going to install the roller furling for the fore sail. I guess I'll need to cross my fingers....

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Prospector
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Response Posted - 03/02/2009 : 15:35:14

Sounds like you found a winner! Congrats and welcome to the club!

A survey may find a thing or two you didn't see, Mine found a couple of small things, they were good to know about so that I could make my task list. I still haven't tackled many of the tasks though.

She does look like a pretty boat. I wish my woodwork was that nicely maintained! What is the thing in the pic just aft of the forehatch? It looks like you have a line there or something?? Also, is that a solar array mountd on the stern pulpit?

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PCP777
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Response Posted - 03/02/2009 : 15:41:53

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Prospector
 Sounds like you found a winner! Congrats and welcome to the club!

A survey may find a thing or two you didn't see, Mine found a couple of small things, they were good to know about so that I could make my task list. I still haven't tackled many of the tasks though.

She does look like a pretty boat. I wish my woodwork was that nicely maintained! What is the thing in the pic just aft of the forehatch? It looks like you have a line there or something?? Also, is that a solar array mountd on the stern pulpit?
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Thank you very much, and I plan on maintaining her. It's going to be so nice to get out of the house, we really look forward to it.

He set up a line so that the rigging doesn't slat in the wind on the mast, I believe that's what you're talking about. The good news is that he's agreed to go on a couple more sails with me until I get acclimated to her and everything.

Yes there is a solar panel which keeps the battery charged for the auto bilge pump. I do not have ship to shore (Is that how I say it? ) power.

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Prospector
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Response Posted - 03/02/2009 : 16:00:03

Halyard slap is a problem in marinas and if you plan on spending the night on board. our solution is to run a bungee cord from the forward spreader, under the halyard, and hook it on th eaft spreader, then pull the halyard taught.

The solar panels are a good add-on. we bought one last year, but have no permanent mount for it. We have shore power on the boat, but don't have power at our slip either. I'm hopin gthat once I get enough seniority in our club I can sneak into a powered slip.

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skrenz
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Response Posted - 03/02/2009 : 17:08:18

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by CaptainSam
 But I am thinking about a sailing school... any suggestions?
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There are a number of schools in Florida. All will probably require the same text book. I have found Blue Water Sailing School www.bwss.com to be reasonable with very good instructors. Usually the way this works is you sign up for a 1 week cruise (5 days)with a number of other students and take Basic Keelboat, Basic Coastal Cruising, and Bareboat Chartering all during that week. This will give you enough to start with on how to sail without breaking something (yourself included)

. And you will be certified under ASA which you can use to take follow on courses all the way to Offshore Passage Making. But then, as everyone here will tell you, the more time you spend on the water the better you will be.

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Response Posted - 03/02/2009 : 17:16:59

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Prospector
 Halyard slap... our solution is to run a bungee cord from the forward spreader, under the halyard, and hook it on th eaft spreader, then pull the halyard taught.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">By "spreader", I presume he means lower shroud.

(These sailboat terms are so confusing!)

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Prospector
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Response Posted - 03/02/2009 : 18:30:45

Thanks for th ecorrection Bristle!!

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Windhover
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Response Posted - 03/03/2009 : 15:49:06

Welcome Sam and Peter, enjoy your boats! I'd like to second the plug for the ASA instruction... I attended a combined 101 and 103 (basic keelboat and coastal cruising)class for 4 days last May and it was invaluable! Looking back, I could have learned to sail on my own without the class (I havd many years experience on power boats,) but the safety aspect alone is so important. I left the class a competent and safe beginning skipper. Good luck and enjoy!

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PCP777
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Response Posted - 03/03/2009 : 15:56:09

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Windhover
 Welcome Sam and Peter, enjoy your boats! I'd like to second the plug for the ASA instruction... I attended a combined 101 and 103 (basic keelboat and coastal cruising)class for 4 days last May and it was invaluable! Looking back, I could have learned to sail on my own without the class (I havd many years experience on power boats,) but the safety aspect alone is so important. I left the class a competent and safe beginning skipper. Good luck and enjoy!
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Thanks for this feedback, I guess an ASA training course is the way to go. I've been looking at some classes here in my local area and now I'll make sure they are ASA certified. I'm not sure if I should start with the basic class (since I have years of sailing experience, albeit years ago) or go to the intermediate class. They cost about $300 each.

I would guess this kind of a class is better than the old Power squadron classes?

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