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JimB517
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Initially Posted - 03/27/2009 : 00:11:45

Click here to see more:

http://www.indiscipline.org/cat25/cabo09.html

Indiscipline 1978 FK SR #398

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Steve Blackburn
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Response Posted - 03/27/2009 : 00:43:52

Is that the backstay adjuster to your right?

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Steve Milby
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Response Posted - 03/27/2009 : 05:17:38

That's a neat and orderly way to carry a lot of extra fuel.

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redviking
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Response Posted - 03/27/2009 : 07:53:44

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Steve Milby
 That's a neat and orderly way to carry a lot of extra fuel.
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I haven't even seen all of the photos yet, but I think I am going to have a field day with this one!

One, whoever thought that lashing jerry cans of diesel in the cockpit was a good idea, never considered that if they leak that you will slip and fall possibly injuring yourself. Diesel and water equals skating rink, especially with deck shoes. Two, if you think that light line is going to hold all of those jerry cans in place in the event of a knockdown or even sliding sideways off of a decent wave, think again. If they break loose, where are you going to stand? Three, is this comfortable for the crew? Four, why is all of this weight so far aft? It's diesel, store it below if you must. Five, do I see two jerry can fills in place? And is the one to your left sorta lashed by the fill? There is your diesel contamination...

Uncontrollable Urge should be renamed TrainWreck. Please try to keep that thing on that side as the skipper and the vessel are a liability to all who ply the sea responsibly. Now, just where did I put my morning meds?

sten -

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Dave Bristle
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Djibouti
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Response Posted - 03/27/2009 : 08:23:50

Now that I see that sled again, I can't imagine helming it by sitting on the rail night and day for multiple days beating to weather off-shore. That's not wet--that's waterboarding! And engine access through a hatch in the cockpit sole (with no transom)? That thing is definitely a buoy-racer. The people who take it off-shore for multiple days are...... well, I just don't get it. Jim, for your family's sake, I'm glad you decided you're not one of them.

(Sten, it looks to me like that gerry can is lashed through the handle, not around the fill.)

Edited by - Dave Bristle on 03/27/2009 08:39:50

JimB517
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Response Posted - 03/27/2009 : 11:58:47

To my right is one of the running backstays. The boat in normal configuration has a B&R rig with no backstay.

What you can't see in the photos is the terrific weather helm, how incredibly uncomfortable it was sitting like that and steering, how difficult it was to move around all the fuel cans. I fell more than once when tacking and trying to get to the other side. I finally learned just to crawl.

Also, you can see that the transom is open and there are 2 lifelines. What you can't see that the autopilot is actually aft of the transom lifelines and you have to lean over to adjust it. It also popped off the tiller on most really big waves.

You can see how badly Laura is dressed - keep in mind I was wet and cold in my foulies.

Keep in mind too that these photos were taken in the late afternoon AFTER we had broken out from Falso and the wind was down in the low teens and the seas to about 4 feet (still on the nose).

Honestly I would have prefered my C25 on that day. We did get back in a hurry, though!

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John Russell
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Response Posted - 03/27/2009 : 12:24:17

My tongue hurts from biting it so hard.

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JohnP
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Response Posted - 03/27/2009 : 13:38:11

Although there was nowhere to stand at the helm, AT LEAST there was nowhere to sit comfortably!?! Is the man at the helm normally supposed to use a longer tiller extension and sit forward on the bench, or what? I just don't understand that design.

And Indiscipline III is so luxurious in comparison.

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Steve Blackburn
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Response Posted - 03/27/2009 : 14:54:59

Jim,

I just read the whole story on your web site. Thanks for taking the time to write that. Very informative and I learned lots. Too bad it didn't work out and you have to go back to Cabo. This was probably already asked, but if they had a trailer, why sail the boat in the first place?

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Stu Jackson C34
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Response Posted - 03/27/2009 : 23:17:37

Don't say we didn't warn ya!

See: http://www.catalina-capri-25s.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=19229

Glad you're back safely.

Diesel ???, I thought it was a gas outboard. Maybe from the earlier posts and from the color of the "gas" cans...

Edited by - Stu Jackson C34 on 03/27/2009 23:28:05

Dave5041
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Response Posted - 03/27/2009 : 23:28:25

Yes, good story and well written. To bad it won't work in the Mainsheet. ;)

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JimB517
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Response Posted - 03/28/2009 : 11:36:52

Post Script - the boat is home, with no damage. They drove back up Baja and did not take the mainland route. Everyone agrees that they should have trailered her back up in the first place. They are getting parts to fix the engine (I'm convinced it was just an air leak - but from where?). I beleive that after 11 hours of motoring the tank was sufficently empty that the pickup got some air on a big wave. Captain Mike would not let me crack an injector and bleed from there. I believe he lost confidence in the boat.

I got a 3 day weekend in Cabo, a 86 mile daysail around Cabo Falso, and a ride on a sport boat. I got to experience speeds well above 10.

Perhaps I should never have agreed to do it. I was told these guys were super experienced and the boat had done it before. Turns out they have done the delivery up Baja before, but not on Urge.

Alls well that ends well, nothing ventured nothing gained. My own thoughts of getting an Olson 30 or J27 have been significantly altered. I can barely afford a 30 year old C25 anyhow and I have 2 kids in college so who am I kidding. Meanwhile, I love my boat and I have some big races to do in April.

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Dave Bristle
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Djibouti
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Response Posted - 03/28/2009 : 12:45:46

Nothing better than wanting what you have and having what you want!

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