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redviking
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Initially Posted - 04/08/2009 : 08:30:29

This guy motored by us in a 30 knot gale with temps in the 20's last year. Last time I checked, this guy is still there.

sten
SV Lysistrata - C&C 39 - St. Augustine FL
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pastmember
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Response Posted - 04/08/2009 : 09:22:58

Is that some old Columbia spawn he is sailing... or breaking into? We have an Albino minister with an F24 on a mooring at our club, He uses a canoe for a tender. Being an Albino he wears white hoodies with a big hat and long white pants at all times. He paddles standing up in his canoe, he looks like an apparition slipping past the boats.

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Response Posted - 04/08/2009 : 09:29:30

Looks maybe like a Pearson Triton... (?) Here's another one for sale on Yachtworld...

This one could be called "fully equipped".

Which yacht club is that burgee from?

Edit: I guess it's not a Triton.

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redviking
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Response Posted - 04/08/2009 : 10:49:38

Ooops clicked too fast.

Yes, this would make a good home for someone?

This was a home for someone. Nice life if you can get it.

Happy hour? Do this enough and you will become a derelict.

Happy hour smoking cessation class?

Lysistrata's Sistership. Hull # 62 - 1974, last one made. We happened to be there. Lucky!

Is it Happy Hour yet?

Watering the Manatees

50 ton travelift - one 8 foot dink. You get the idea.

Deja vu?

sten

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Response Posted - 04/08/2009 : 11:25:00

Sten - very nice to see some of your photos, thanks. I can't believe how much the keel is raked on those boats. Looks like a lot of hull under the water, nice underbody for an offshore fin keeler.

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redviking
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Response Posted - 04/08/2009 : 11:56:34

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by JimB517
 Sten - very nice to see some of your photos, thanks. I can't believe how much the keel is raked on those boats. Looks like a lot of hull under the water, nice underbody for an offshore fin keeler.
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Thanks! It's called a whale fin keel. If you run aground - don't back up! You will plant yourself hard if it is soft mud. 9,000 lbs. of lead - not encapsulated with an overall displacement of 18,000 plus the additional crap we have onboard.

The benefit of a whale fin keel - bring it back kids - is that it emulates a full keel when underway in heavy seas in terms of stability et al. (Edit) You'll note that the old school C25 is sorta raked the same way. Yet unlike a full keel, we can do almost 8.5 in 12 knots of wind - ok, that's my most recent record. Most of the freaking time we wind up motorsailing off of the rhumb line to pick up the extra knot.

sten

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redviking
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Response Posted - 04/08/2009 : 12:19:31

Here's a better side view.

and one I forgot to post. Drug runner?

sten

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Response Posted - 04/08/2009 : 12:41:24

Another advantage of that keel rake is when you hit something...

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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 04/08/2009 : 14:20:17

Looks like that keel would just slice right through a mud bank or sand bar. rock ledge? That's a horse of e different color.

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bren737
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Response Posted - 04/08/2009 : 19:44:30

Sten,

My guess wouldn't be a drug runner. A 'potcake' is a local breed of dog in the Bahamas; mostly northern Bahamas, I believe. They look to be a bit of a terrier derivative.

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Response Posted - 04/09/2009 : 07:35:44

Looks like that rudder could be problematic in heavy seas or if it connected with anything, hope it's extremely beefy.

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JimB517
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Response Posted - 04/09/2009 : 12:10:51

Sten-the boat looks great.

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Prospector
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Response Posted - 04/09/2009 : 16:34:50

Aluminium Canoes aren't very good. He should move up to Kevlar.

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redviking
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Response Posted - 04/10/2009 : 07:15:04

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by DaveR
 Looks like that rudder could be problematic in heavy seas or if it connected with anything, hope it's extremely beefy.
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Rudder stock is 3" solid Stainless. Remember how they use to build em? Bulletproof? Lysistrata has been around twice in 22 years with her previous owner and has handled some pretty big seas for us on a few occasions with no indication of trouble. That being said, I wanted a skeg mounted rudder on a full keel, ketch rig, slow boat to China type. Some modern sailboats have rudders that are as deep or deeper than the keel. That's a problem. I wound up with a more go fast boat than I started looking for, but the beefyness of old school boats is unquestionable. Case in point - I would not trade my 82 C25 for a brand new C250. Not for money, nor love, nor anything. Having to put lead in the forepeak for ballast to balance the vessel out? No thanks! Build em like you used to folks! I might buy one.

And yes, that's right a Potcake is a weird mutt that is multicolored - I forgot. Thanks!

sten

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Response Posted - 04/10/2009 : 08:23:59

She's one beautiful vessel, Sten. Yes, I would prefer a skeg-hung rudder for going off-shore, but a serious rudder-post and SS framework in the blade, which I'll bet you have, is a lot more robust than our two pintles bolted through a cored fiberglass shell. I hope to see Lysistrata around Mystic or at Block Island or somewhere one of these days--if you ever come back north...

When are you going "around"? She's probably stomping in the stable!

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redviking
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Response Posted - 04/10/2009 : 12:27:41

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Dave Bristle
 She's one beautiful vessel, Sten. Yes, I would prefer a skeg-hung rudder for going off-shore, but a serious rudder-post and SS framework in the blade, which I'll bet you have, is a lot more robust than our two pintles bolted through a cored fiberglass shell. I hope to see Lysistrata around Mystic or at Block Island or somewhere one of these days--if you ever come back north...

When are you going "around"? She's probably stomping in the stable!

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Thanks Dave. Yeah the rudder is the least of my worries. Built very solidly and has passed every inspection without a comment. We have an Aries windvane with rudder, so I am confident I can get her somewhere.

She is tugging at her lines for sure. She really wants to go, as do I - the wife is OK with a hop to Belize or something. Around, no... We'll see. I often think about those two pintles and remember sweating it out in what we now call reasonable conditions. So for the moment we are happy. She rides in the water, not on top of it like the new bleach bottles - so once again I wouldn't trade. Although a Morris 52 would be nice.

We "parked" once again in St. Augustine while I try to peck out a living once again. In a month or two we shall start working our way south - the ride north was fun, but we burned a lot of fuel and time, so this year we will attempt to ply our wares in Belize or Honduras, both of which has decent communication infrastructure so I can keep this whole program going. I assume we will venture back to New England next summer as we are contemplating a run from Newfoundland to Skandihoovia - some dumb ass swede offered me a lot of money for my vessel if I deliver her. Who knows? Then I'll buy a nice Nordhavn

just kidding!

sten

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