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Ben
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Initially Posted - 04/13/2009 : 10:21:03

Hi all!

Winter is finally over, I put the boat in the water yesterday.

All went well, with no problems. I plan on visiting her this afternoon to make sure she's still floating. I always check to make sure she's not taking on water, but that first night after Splash Day I can't help but have some sleepless moments wondering if she's leaking.

Anyway, for the question; What is the type and length of line I need to buy for a jib halyard on a standard rig? I'm sure it's somewhere in the manuals and parts manual, but I'm not seeing it. This doesn't mean it's not there, if you ask my girlfriend she'll tell you I could spend five minutes looking for something and it will have been in front of me the entire time. All I've found is the lenght of what I think is a stainless-steel cable/line combination, but I was all "rope" halyards.

Thanks All!

Ben
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pastmember
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Response Posted - 04/13/2009 : 11:55:01

Ben, several factors affect your choice.
What is the length that you need; are your halyards lead back to the cockpit?
What hardware do you have; cleats or clutches?
Do you care about material; high tec or not?

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redeye
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Response Posted - 04/13/2009 : 12:16:46

About 65 feet (55 to the deck ) and 10 to play with ( and cut later )

Luff 28.5
Leech 26.8

more if you run it back to the cabintop

IMHO

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Response Posted - 04/13/2009 : 12:27:41

OK to be more accurate...

Looks like it is Luff of about 29 ( lets say 30 with the knot ) so that is the line up the forstay.

Mast extrusion is 28 feet.

So you could say 58 feet to the deck, and then 7 feet for the cleat and cutting.

so.. I'd still try 65 feet. It looks to me like 60 would work, especially if the rope store gives you the bakers dozen.

What does the group think?

IMHO

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redeye
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Response Posted - 04/13/2009 : 12:36:27

Oh ... and then there is the line type and size issue. If your sheeves up top are the ones you had for wire then you can use 1/4 in line. I don't like that though, the small line is had on the hands, but most important, it can jump the sheeve pretty easily.

I used 3/8 without changing the sheeve ( yet ) and the line will go throuch the sheeve easily it just makes the line wear out much faster.

So I've got to change the sheeve before to long.

I use stay set line right now, cause it is not too expensive and my sheeves are wearing these lines.

Hope this helps.
IMHO

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Response Posted - 04/13/2009 : 12:40:28

Sorry about the typong, new keyboard and it is driving me crazy..

CD direct for the sheeves...

http://catalinadirect.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.display&Product_ID=11

and it is for 5/16 line..

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Response Posted - 04/13/2009 : 14:29:31

http://catalinadirect.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.display&Product_ID=34

Another less expensive sheave for line from CD

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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 04/13/2009 : 21:59:56

When I converted our tall rig C-25 to all rope halyards (and new sheaves), I bought 5/16" Sta-set X line, 78 ft. same for both halyards, from Milwaukee Rigging, on Ebay. Great price, quick service.
Proper lengths:
Jib - length of forestay + length of mast + 10 ft. for lead back to cockpit.
Main - 2x length of mast + 10 ft. for lead back to cockpit.

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Ben
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Response Posted - 04/14/2009 : 06:39:33

thanks folks. i do have all-rope halyards currently, and all lines are led aft. :-)

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glivs
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Response Posted - 04/14/2009 : 08:38:13

I also prefer the longer jib lengths (78'). The added length opens the opportunity to use the jib halyard and cabin top winches to assist in a crew overboard situation. Lot's of discussion on halyard lengths and choice of line in archives.

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