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Prospector
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Initially Posted - 04/15/2009 :  10:20:13  Show Profile  Visit Prospector's Homepage
Hey guys,

I'm trying to figure out where the majority of our sailing dollars go. From equipping your boat, to maintenance & tools, to charters, boat transportation/trailering, insurance, the whole shibang.

If you had to pick your top 3 destination for your boat dollars (where I could spend money too, so not your local marina/mom & pop chandlery...) where would you say most of them go?

I think for me the biggies are:
<b>West Marine</b> (not frequently, but of the national/internationals, they are up there)
<b>Binnacle.com</b> (same as for West, not as big of a company, but WAY better prices, and free shipping if you spend enough)
<b>Lee Valley Tools</b> (Lee Valley also suckers me into buying stuff for gardening, woodworking, reading, etc. while I'm there, but they have good prices on Epoxy/hardener, and the product knowledge & quality of their items can't be beat)

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delliottg
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Response Posted - 04/15/2009 :  10:43:12  Show Profile  Visit delliottg's Homepage
Well, if you're talking about a "majority" of our sailing dollars, hands down that's Online Outboards, simply because we spent $2k there in one swell foop.

On an ongoing basis, next I'd say is Fisheries Supply here in Seattle, but they're online too. They have better prices than WM, plus I get a discount through my marina. Their customer service varies between helpful to hostile depending on who you deal with. The guys in the electrical shop-always helpful, same with plumbing, running rigging & hardware, eh, really depends on who's there, some are very helpful, others won't come out from behind the counter. Returns? Painful. Electronics? Usually the guy I've had to deal with for returns, disinterested at best. Fortunately I do all my homework before I get there (or anywhere else) so I generally know what I want & don't need lots of help.

Then probably comes West Marine. Some stores have complete idiots working there, others have folks who remember what your boat is if not your name, ask you how that last install they helped you find parts for went, etc. High prices, but if you do your homework, you can beat them down severely since they have a price matching policy. On big ticket items I find this kind of fun, because I'd rather have WM's return policy on my side if something goes wrong, plus I'd rather buy locally if I can, even if I'm beating them up on price.

Lee Valley gets a fair number of my dollars, but it's generally not for boat stuff, woodworking & some occasional gardening supplies for Rita. By far it's my favorite woodworking site.

That's sort of four...

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 04/15/2009 :  11:10:51  Show Profile
Take a wild guess.

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Steve Blackburn
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Response Posted - 04/15/2009 :  11:14:01  Show Profile  Visit Steve Blackburn's Homepage
For the moment I would say equipment. I didn't know much about cruising sailboats when I first bought Vida Nova and didn't pay attention to all that was missing. It makes a big difference on what type of equipment is already there.

Added To date:
- 135% jib
- Bimini
- Single backstay mod
- Hull ablative removal + new VC17
- Engine to rudder Hardlink mod
- Mast track
- 7-15 HD whisker pole

Future projects:
- Asym spin
- Spin block and halyard
- Move winches to coamings mod
- deck organizers
- clutches
- Change mast plate

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redeye
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Response Posted - 04/15/2009 :  11:17:55  Show Profile
Beer

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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 04/15/2009 :  11:31:30  Show Profile
1. Bought used trailer needing lumber, carpeting, tires, paint, lube & wiring
2. Outboard - 9.8 Nissan from OnlineOutboards
3. Sails - new 135 from National Sail Supply and a used 150 from another member
4. Keel trunk repair & electrical rewiring, battery
5. Whisker pole, HD7-15DL from Defender
6. Misc. stuff at WM

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DaveR
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Response Posted - 04/15/2009 :  11:51:48  Show Profile  Visit DaveR's Homepage
West Marine; Defender; National Sail Supply

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aeckhart
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Response Posted - 04/15/2009 :  12:19:10  Show Profile  Visit aeckhart's Homepage
North Sails
West Marine
Defender

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Turk
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Response Posted - 04/15/2009 :  12:20:26  Show Profile  Visit Turk's Homepage
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by redeye</i>
<br />Beer
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Now that you mentioned it, I think your right!

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 04/15/2009 :  12:20:38  Show Profile
The majority of my yearly sailing dollars go to...

1. Marina slip fees
2. Winter boatyard storage fee
3. Boat insurance

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JimB517
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Response Posted - 04/15/2009 :  12:24:33  Show Profile  Visit JimB517's Homepage
at $4000/year slip fees without a doubt #1.

Then

West Marine
Driscol's boat yard for bi-annual bottom painting
Dive service for monthly bottom cleaning
Annapolis Performance Sailing
Sailrite
Ulman Ventura
On Line Outboards

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delliottg
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Response Posted - 04/15/2009 :  12:36:05  Show Profile  Visit delliottg's Homepage
Hadn't thought about slip fees. With our $5k buy in, that's our number one expense other than the boat & trailer themselves. Monthly fees work out to around $1740/year or so.

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Deric
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Response Posted - 04/15/2009 :  13:44:11  Show Profile
Wow! 4k on slip fees?

And I was going to mention my slip fee of $875 bucks for 6 months as the biggest cost. Well it still is.
But then again, I can only sail a few months out of the year anyway. May to October, and it's not always pleasant.

As for spending money on equipment, I support a local sailboat outlet. Usually it's paint, add-ons. etc maybe 500 bucks a year for add ons i.e., this year BBQ grill.

Deric

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JimB517
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Response Posted - 04/15/2009 :  13:59:02  Show Profile  Visit JimB517's Homepage
slip fees, monthly cleaning, and bi-annual bottom painting aside, I figure I spend about $300/month on the boat.

Food
Fuel
drinks
fixing broken stuff
maintenance
improvements

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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 04/15/2009 :  14:00:45  Show Profile
$4k, ouch!! forgot slip rent, about $1,050 last year, paid annually. supposed to go up about 5% this year.

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Nautiduck
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Response Posted - 04/15/2009 :  14:57:44  Show Profile
1. Eugene Yacht Club (Membership, slip, storage)
2. West Marine (Stuff)
3. BoatUS (Insurance)

That is my current top 3. When we were outfitting the Nauti Duck the list would have been WM, EYC, and then BoatUS.

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Prospector
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Response Posted - 04/15/2009 :  16:20:24  Show Profile  Visit Prospector's Homepage
I wasn't including local stuff - like slip fees, beer, and bribing the fast boats to go slow on race day.

I was looking for what economic stimulus we provide outside our local communities. Appreciate the answers so far though. It seems like West Marine benefits a bunch from us.

I wonder if BoatUS would get as much business from the Association without the membership incentives, Online Outboards likely gets a dozen or so buys in a year, I wonder what the real number is, and how much it will increase as the boats age. I wonder how many purchases these folks see when a member mentions them to someone in the slip next to them at the marina.


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tinob
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Response Posted - 04/15/2009 :  16:42:08  Show Profile
Including this year and three more just like it, Kenyon College is the BOOGEY MAN

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Tom Potter
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Response Posted - 04/15/2009 :  16:56:26  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Dave Bristle</i>
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The fuel dock?

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 04/15/2009 :  18:33:29  Show Profile  Visit Champipple's Homepage
1. EYC FEES, DUES, MINIMUM Spend Requirment
2. Sail Loft
3. This year - Rocklers.com
4. Anywhere I can except for WestMarine (though Westmarine always wins for the last minute stuff)
5. Wed/Sun Race Fees/ REgatta Fees/Phrf Membership
5A. Crew Beer/Food/ etc.
6. Insurance

2 years ago - Diesel Repair dudes.

Really doesn't matter BOAT - Break Out another Thousand

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Tom Gauntt
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Response Posted - 04/15/2009 :  19:27:48  Show Profile
I try to buy online as much as possible to save some money. Lately I've spent a lot at:

1. Catalina Direct (.com)

2. Jamestown Distributors (.com)

3. National Sail Supply (.com)

4. Bacon's Sails

Bacon's is a consignment and marine supply store here in Annapolis. The have a web site where you can purchase many items (including over 10,000 used/new sails), but the treasure trove is the warehouse in back... If you ever find yourself around Annapolis, do not miss a visit to Bacon's. Great people running the place as well.

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OLarryR
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Response Posted - 04/15/2009 :  20:08:39  Show Profile  Visit OLarryR's Homepage
1. Marina fees
2. Washington Marina - Honda 9.9hp
3. Quantum Sails - New Main & 150 Genoa
4. Washington Sailing Marina - Travel lift to raise, lower, go to/from mtn yard and paint.
5. West Marine
6. Catalina Direct
7. Defender

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