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ilnadi
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Initially Posted - 06/22/2009 :  05:59:58  Show Profile
(and he gets sucked in) The problem with (at least the Jabsco) handle is that the pump disk is held onto the shaft (see hard-to-see [url="http://www.catalinadirect.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.display&Product_ID=448"]exploded view[/url]) with two tiny C-washers, one on either side. Real stainless ones are almost impossible to find and normal ones disintegrate in a year, so you need to keep replacing them. Until now the top one always broke first to remind me to change both. This time they both fell apart, so the shaft came off the disk. That made the repair a lot less palatable.

I have not really replaced any parts in it, so it is time for a repair kit ($65) but the pump housing is broken in a few places; stays together but may not pump as well. OK, a new pump assembly is $100 and presumably comes with new of whatever is in the repair kit. For $35 more I get a new pump, kewl.

WAIT, the bowl is disgusting (Vinegar is just not doing it anymore and I do not dare clean with anything stronger, we used bleach the first week of ownership -oops- and the, ahem, results were more horrible than if we had used the bilge as a toilet); the seat has peeling paint and the lid is just OLD. A new toilet with "<i>Twist 'n' Lock action handle guards against syphonic flooding and waste backflow</i>" is only $150. And let's be honest, nobody wants <i>waste backflow</i>

Then I pull out the head mistress' book and she says marine toilets (even the expensive ones) last 3-5 years. She is supposed to be frugal so maybe these things do die. Plus as far as I can tell, this toilet is older than the boat.

Well, allow me to do my part in the economic recovery, so I bought a new head. Stay tuned for the head-changing saga.
Nadi ex-C25
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DaveR
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Response Posted - 06/22/2009 :  06:10:23  Show Profile  Visit DaveR's Homepage
You did the right thing. I've talked to quite a few people about head repair kits and I'm told not to waste my time, just get a new head. I've been told though that they'll last longer than 5 years. Good luck!!
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delliottg
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Response Posted - 06/22/2009 :  08:12:21  Show Profile  Visit delliottg's Homepage
FWIW, I've had several conversations with Peggy (The Head Mistress), and she's always given me the straight poop (sorry, couldn't help myself).

I've never had to work on a marine head, although I've used some that definitely needed some work. For the (relatively) low cost of replacing one vs. the unpleasantness of repairing one that's on what sounds like last-ish legs, I think replacing yours is the way to go.
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redviking
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Response Posted - 06/22/2009 :  13:18:30  Show Profile
Essentially, the pump assembly is all you are replacing. The rest is bowl and lid. Replace the pump... $100 at WM.

sten
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