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oregonworld
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Response Posted - 07/08/2009 :  11:54:51  Show Profile  Visit oregonworld's Homepage
I will definitely let you know how the search is going. Every post I learn a little more about what I want and what is out there. I like the advice of the L shaped table. The C250 is probably out of my price range although I don't have a vehicle that would tow a C-25 the 9 hours to the San Juans or even 3 hours to the other regional lakes. I'm thinking A) C-25 and rent a truck to get to to other lakes while I mooring or store it our neighborhood lake. B) Go with the C250 and not have to worry about the vehicle situation. I'd probably take it more places if that wasn't a worry.

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PCP777
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Response Posted - 07/08/2009 :  12:50:54  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by oregonworld</i>
<br />I will definitely let you know how the search is going. Every post I learn a little more about what I want and what is out there. I like the advice of the L shaped table. The C250 is probably out of my price range although I don't have a vehicle that would tow a C-25 the 9 hours to the San Juans or even 3 hours to the other regional lakes. I'm thinking A) C-25 and rent a truck to get to to other lakes while I mooring or store it our neighborhood lake. B) Go with the C250 and not have to worry about the vehicle situation. I'd probably take it more places if that wasn't a worry.

Jared

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How far are you from a decent sailing lake? Mine is in a marina 10 minutes from work and 15 minutes from home. Half the fun for me is the community that I meet in our little yacht club, on the docks and the Wednesday beer can races. For example, Last weekend I sailed my boat, went out and did an overnight raft up on my buddy's C-27, sailed on his boat the next morning, when we returned to my dock my friends invited me out on their pontoon boat, then I crashed on my boat,the next morning went out on my friend's ski boat and went tubing, than after a rain squall I took my boat out until sunset Sunday evening. I kind of get the best of all worlds as I sail on my boat, a wide selection of other sailboats and if there's no wind or I want to go north of I-30 to see all the babes dancing at party cove I have my slip neighbors with powerboats.

You might find, if you have a good sailing lake nearby, that you might not want to move it lake to lake as much as you'd think. The entire boating community that you get with a good marina is awesome. We have a pool, a floating nightclub and common areas where you can grill. Plus, when I want to go out, all I do is hank on a jib, take the main cover off and start the engine. I don't think I could deal with all the rigging and mast set up each time I trailered.


just something to think about as you make your selection.

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NautiC25
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Response Posted - 07/08/2009 :  13:05:33  Show Profile
There's C25's all over the US on sailingtexas.com

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Response Posted - 07/08/2009 :  18:51:09  Show Profile
Jared, tough decisions. I agree that joining a club with nice facilities and activities is a good way to go. I also know that access to the San Juans is a great opportunity for PNW sailors. Tough choices but good ones. Be certain that any outfit that you consider renting a truck from allows you to tow. U-Haul does not and you wouldn't want to have an accident after signing a rental agreement that says no towing.

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Response Posted - 07/08/2009 :  20:26:17  Show Profile
You might want to consider chartering a boat in whatever "distant" venues interest you... For one thing, it can be a larger, more livable boat for those multiple days/nights on such a trip. The flip side is you can get a more affordable boat for your home grounds, where you might be less likely to spend more than one night aboard at a time, and tow vehicles are a non-issue.

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Nautiduck
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Response Posted - 07/09/2009 :  06:57:08  Show Profile
Chartering is certainly an option. There are several charter groups in the San Juans area. This one has a good reputation - [url="http://www.sanjuansailing.com/asp/charterlist.htm"]San Juans Sailing[/url].

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PCP777
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Response Posted - 07/09/2009 :  10:35:14  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Nautiduck</i>
<br />Chartering is certainly an option. There are several charter groups in the San Juans area. This one has a good reputation - [url="http://www.sanjuansailing.com/asp/charterlist.htm"]San Juans Sailing[/url].
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The 360 views on that site are cooooool.

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PCP777
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Response Posted - 07/10/2009 :  09:23:55  Show Profile
This looks like an incredible deal, I just had to post it. If you keep a look out, you can find stuff like this. 1980 C 25 for $3900, looks pretty nice.

http://dallas.craigslist.org/sdf/boa/1260257520.html

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Stu Jackson C34
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Response Posted - 07/10/2009 :  13:32:47  Show Profile
I sent Jared over here from co.com, and it sounds like he and all of you are happy he is here. Thanks for all of your help to him.

After reading this topic, I have one question, which has been kinda indirectly asked earlier:

Jared, where will you sail out of Ashland?

I know Randy has a great lake to sail on and still trailers up to the SJs, and stays on <u>his</u> boat, so it's NOT a daysailer.

In addition to your A) & B) questions about trucks, you may have to seriously ask yourself about trailering because the SJs, on your OWN boat are so very tempting.

We bought our C25 in 1987 with the idea of bringing it up to Clear Lake, where we'd summer sailed our C22 for four years. In fact we thought of leaving it up there all year round. We bought a fixed keel. For many reasons, we left it here on the Bay and were glad we did, 'cuz we got to sail the Bay, the ocean and the (hot, hot, hot) Delta.

So, take a deep breath, and re-evaluate your options, and sailing grounds again.

If you want to trailer the boat, you need a bigger truck or your dad's. Period, because of all the weight but <u><i><b>primarily</b></i></u> the highway stuff. That grade through Portland is pretty mean. So that means the boat isn't the factor at all, it's the truck.

If you choose to stay with your boat on your lake (hence my basic question) then the truck isn't an issue but you've committed to bareboating the SJs.

Seems them's yer choices.

Ya almost got sensory overload here, but I knew they'd help!

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cat25
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Response Posted - 07/14/2009 :  02:05:00  Show Profile
I have a 1990 tr/wk cat 25 that I have trailored from michigan to new york. A chevrolet trailblazer with a six cylinder engine was used to tow. Everything went well great boat.

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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 07/14/2009 :  07:15:47  Show Profile
Check out the listings in the Swap Meet section of this forum, and Craigslist. I looked for over six months before buying Recess, and it took another year to find a trailer. If you find a really good boat/trailer combo, give it serious consideration.
On the trailering side, if you plan to move the boat only 1-3 times a year, rent a truck or van. Van rental places often have 15 passenger vans set up with a tow package for youth mission or choir groups needing to haul gear with them. Guys in our club used one to bring a donated Northstar 500 from the Northeast area to Nashville and it worked very well. Or call on a friend with a truck, or a local boat hauling service.
Edit 7/14/09 correction - 12 passenger van. As an example, here's a listing on our paper Sunday: 2005 Ford E350, 12 pass., tow pkg, dual A/C, pdl, pw, 90k hwy miles, $9,500.

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oregonworld
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Response Posted - 07/14/2009 :  11:29:40  Show Profile  Visit oregonworld's Homepage
Thanks everyone for all the super cool info. The chartering approach is definitely sounding good, making a less expensive boat possible as well as eliminating the need for a tow vehicle.

I am planning on sailing and mooring my boat at Howard Prairie Lake which is about 30 mins from my house. I've kinda gotten over the top engrossed in this process and it can be overwhelming. I'm sort of keeping my eyes on the inventory from colorado west and thinking that this fall there might be some more deals out there? What do you think. Fall a better time to buy?

Jared


<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Stu Jackson C34</i>
<br />I sent Jared over here from co.com, and it sounds like he and all of you are happy he is here. Thanks for all of your help to him.

After reading this topic, I have one question, which has been kinda indirectly asked earlier:

Jared, where will you sail out of Ashland?

I know Randy has a great lake to sail on and still trailers up to the SJs, and stays on <u>his</u> boat, so it's NOT a daysailer.

In addition to your A) & B) questions about trucks, you may have to seriously ask yourself about trailering because the SJs, on your OWN boat are so very tempting.

We bought our C25 in 1987 with the idea of bringing it up to Clear Lake, where we'd summer sailed our C22 for four years. In fact we thought of leaving it up there all year round. We bought a fixed keel. For many reasons, we left it here on the Bay and were glad we did, 'cuz we got to sail the Bay, the ocean and the (hot, hot, hot) Delta.

So, take a deep breath, and re-evaluate your options, and sailing grounds again.

If you want to trailer the boat, you need a bigger truck or your dad's. Period, because of all the weight but <u><i><b>primarily</b></i></u> the highway stuff. That grade through Portland is pretty mean. So that means the boat isn't the factor at all, it's the truck.

If you choose to stay with your boat on your lake (hence my basic question) then the truck isn't an issue but you've committed to bareboating the SJs.

Seems them's yer choices.

Ya almost got sensory overload here, but I knew they'd help!
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oregonworld
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Response Posted - 07/14/2009 :  11:34:15  Show Profile  Visit oregonworld's Homepage
Wow-

That is a much smaller engine than my 4.5L V6 in my Land Cruiser. Do you use this vehicle regularly and how does it do on the hills? Sounds like this was a delivery type of situation.

Jared

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<br />I have a 1990 tr/wk cat 25 that I have trailored from michigan to new york. A chevrolet trailblazer with a six cylinder engine was used to tow. Everything went well great boat.
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Response Posted - 07/14/2009 :  11:59:58  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by oregonworld</i>
<br />Thanks everyone for all the super cool info. The chartering approach is definitely sounding good, making a less expensive boat possible as well as eliminating the need for a tow vehicle.

I am planning on sailing and mooring my boat at Howard Prairie Lake which is about 30 mins from my house. I've kinda gotten over the top engrossed in this process and it can be overwhelming. I'm sort of keeping my eyes on the inventory from colorado west and thinking that this fall there might be some more deals out there? What do you think. Fall a better time to buy?

Jared


<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Stu Jackson C34</i>
<br />I sent Jared over here from co.com, and it sounds like he and all of you are happy he is here. Thanks for all of your help to him.

After reading this topic, I have one question, which has been kinda indirectly asked earlier:

Jared, where will you sail out of Ashland?

I know Randy has a great lake to sail on and still trailers up to the SJs, and stays on <u>his</u> boat, so it's NOT a daysailer.

In addition to your A) & B) questions about trucks, you may have to seriously ask yourself about trailering because the SJs, on your OWN boat are so very tempting.

We bought our C25 in 1987 with the idea of bringing it up to Clear Lake, where we'd summer sailed our C22 for four years. In fact we thought of leaving it up there all year round. We bought a fixed keel. For many reasons, we left it here on the Bay and were glad we did, 'cuz we got to sail the Bay, the ocean and the (hot, hot, hot) Delta.

So, take a deep breath, and re-evaluate your options, and sailing grounds again.

If you want to trailer the boat, you need a bigger truck or your dad's. Period, because of all the weight but <u><i><b>primarily</b></i></u> the highway stuff. That grade through Portland is pretty mean. So that means the boat isn't the factor at all, it's the truck.

If you choose to stay with your boat on your lake (hence my basic question) then the truck isn't an issue but you've committed to bareboating the SJs.

Seems them's yer choices.

Ya almost got sensory overload here, but I knew they'd help!
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In this economy anytime is a good time to buy. I would be looking at listings in places like Craig's list everyday. Did you see that deal I found on the C 25? Go look at boats and kick the tires.

I still go through Craig's list almost daliy just to see what's out there.

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NautiC25
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Response Posted - 07/14/2009 :  13:18:29  Show Profile
Correct. Now is a good time to buy. Economy is down and can only go up from here. We hope. Lol. I felt I got a great deal on my 89 considering what they've gone for a few years ago. I've seen quite a few nice ones on craigslist for under 5k and stay there for months. I bet you could get one even cheaper if you're not picky about the later year thing.

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