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Bruce Baker
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Initially Posted - 10/21/2002 :  14:25:55  Show Profile
Back in August, I broke my mast. Evidently the high priced boat yard I hired to set up my rig forgot to bend the cotter pins over, and the pin in my starboard shroud fell out.

I'm trying to get a rigger out to DC from Annapolis to set up the new mast from Catalina, but they've been putting me off for two weeks, and I want to go sailing!

What do you all think about the advisability of having this professionally done versus doing it myself? There are obvious dangers in installing a mast improperly. But with 20/20 hindsight, can I possibly do a worse job than my so-called professionals?

Have any of you done this job?

Bruce Baker
"Yee Ha"
Alexandria, VA


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osmepneo
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Response Posted - 10/21/2002 :  14:47:35  Show Profile
Bruce,

When I launch in the spring I have the marina operator step the mast and then I tune it. I do this because I don't the hassle of getting the cotter pin for the forestay. It has a roller furler on it and has been set for the tension I desire.

If I had a new mast, I would rig it myself. In my minds eye the hardes aspect of that would be running halyards and electrical wire down the inside of the mast. I expect others woill give input on the best procedures to follow for this.

Get it done and go sailing

From one on the hard


Don Peet
c25, 1665, osmepneo, sr/wk

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Brooke Willson
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Response Posted - 10/21/2002 :  16:14:13  Show Profile
Having stepped the mast on "Even Chance" several times, and having completely rewired it last Spring, I would never pay big bucks to a boatyard to do that for me. If it were a big, heavy, keel-stepped mast, that would be entirely different.

Check the Tech Tips for advice on how to rig the mast for raising/lowering.

Brooke


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luckystar
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Response Posted - 10/21/2002 :  17:07:38  Show Profile  Visit luckystar's Homepage
Brooke's right, you can easily do this yourself, but I recommend working out a bridle system like the one's in the tech tips or using a gin pole. My yacht club at my lake have a gin pole that we have used to help step masts from 23 ft boats to 41 footers! I also rewired my mast and put new lights on when I got her. Also, get or borrow a loos gauge and check out Bill Holcombs tips for rig tension and Fleet 2 (in the racing section) tips on tuning. That should get you there and save you oodles that the yard would be more than happy to take away from you. I also recommend at least three friends who can lift a decent amount, the mast can get unwieldy quick go plan it out before you do it. Good Luck!

Patrick Burnett, Little Rock, AR
S/V Lucky Star #2707 1982 SK/SR

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Brooke Willson
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Response Posted - 10/22/2002 :  08:17:58  Show Profile
If you check the Tech Tips, you'll see that you can use the boom as a gin pole and the main sheet to lift the mast. Trust me, the system really works, and I've even done it solo. It's a lot easier, on the other hand, with a good friend helping!

One of the Tech Tips shows how to run lines from the boom (as gin pole) to either side of the boat to control the side-to-side sway of the mast. I run those lines through the jib sheet blocks and back to the winches. They do require constant adjusting as the mast goes up, and a second hand is needed for that work. Think of it as flying a spinnaker and constantly playing the sheet and guy. Also, make sure those side lines are stout enough: I once tried this using smaller lines that stretched too much, and had a devil of a time keeping the mast centered.

Brooke


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MattL
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Response Posted - 10/22/2002 :  14:57:14  Show Profile
Hi Bruce,
Last Aug. I described raising and lowering my mast. Here is a link to it, hope it helps.
Also don't let everyone scare you, the mast is just a big deal not a great big deal.

http://www.catalina25-250.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1660

The mast crutch I made also has a spot about 4 or 5 feet up to set the mast out of the way.<img src="http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b2ce37b3127cce917bcf048f130000001410" border=0>

Matt/Brigitte Loeffler
E.C. Rider
Cat 25 86'
FK/SR _/)

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arlingva
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Response Posted - 10/22/2002 :  20:33:53  Show Profile
Bruce,

I'm in the area. No experience except I stepped my C 250 mast in July by myself. Admiral is out of town this weekend so if you would like help I'm available. Best place to reach me is office 703-465-4714. Assistant is Jeanette, tell her its about sailing and she will put you thru.

Bill

Bill Swanson
C250WK #614

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 10/23/2002 :  00:16:39  Show Profile
Bruce,

Are you talking about just raising the mast or transferring all of the mast hardware(masthead, spreader brackets, shrouds, antenna, wiring) to a new aluminum mast extrusion?

Don Lucier, 'North Star'
Catalina

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 10/23/2002 :  08:21:58  Show Profile  Visit Champipple's Homepage
Most have already given you there tips, I would just check the archives and the tech tips and do it myself. I sail out of two yacht clubs and dock the Wasp in a third. I have yet to meet someone who doesn't step their mast on their own. Especially on the small boats like a 25. Keep in mind, our boat was made to be trailerable and have the owner step the mast by themselves.

dw

Duane Wolff
"The Flying Wasp"
C-25, #401 std,sk
Chief Measurer C-25/250 National Assn.
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