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cayugaboater
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Initially Posted - 09/18/2009 :  23:14:22  Show Profile
Ok, just wanted to say I got it home, i got the mast up, i got it launched off the ramp and its on my mooring tonight. Having a little trouble figuring out how the sail is supposed to wind up around the roller furling though. Tried to get it on for an hour or so, but it seemed bound up. I know it worked before though cause when i tried out the boat and the sail was on there, it worked fine.CDI furling.

will try and post some pics soon, seems to be pretty nice, no extras, just very basic 89 wingkeel.

89 wingkeel;std rig.
Sail #5811

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DaveR
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Response Posted - 09/19/2009 :  06:27:29  Show Profile  Visit DaveR's Homepage
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"> no extras, just very basic 89 wingkeel <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

That's what mine was when I bought it, but I didn't mind to much, the 89 wk is a fine boat and now you can outfit it the way <i>you</i> want to
As a matter of fact mine is even more basic, it doesn't have a furler, so I can't help you with that.
Oh, and congratulations!!

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OLarryR
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Response Posted - 09/19/2009 :  06:58:35  Show Profile  Visit OLarryR's Homepage
I'm part of the '89 club as well. I have the CDI furler. I'm not sure what to tell you as to your problems. In the past, the CDI instruction brochure was posted on this Forum. If you do a search on CDI and get their website, I believe they have the instructions located there as well.

My furling line is along the port side and when rolling up the sail, the furling line turns the drum counter-clockwise direction.

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cayugaboater
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Response Posted - 09/19/2009 :  08:52:37  Show Profile
Does it matter that we didn't wind the sail around it before we put it up, i.e, you can still wind it around after its up?

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 09/19/2009 :  09:11:19  Show Profile
Sorry if I'm restating the obvious... The furling line that winds around the drum should be fully and tightly wound on the drum (with the tail led back to the cockpit) when you bend the sail onto the furler. Then pulling on the line furls the sail, and pulling on the sail (a sheet) winds the furling line on the drum. You should keep a little tension on the furling line as you pull the sail out--a glove helps for that. It helps to ensure that the line doesn't get bound on itself as you furl the sail.

Make sure your furling line leads onto the drum precisely perpendicularly to the forestay. A small block clamped onto the bow pulpit allows you to adjust that angle. You can sorta see it on mine if you click the signature picture below.

Have a great time with your '89--it's a great boat!

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cayugaboater
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Response Posted - 09/19/2009 :  18:10:09  Show Profile
Got it, had to figure out what the marina goons had done to it when the po had them demast it, they had things kinda messed up, but now we got it going and it all works fine now, thanks for the advice!

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OLarryR
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Response Posted - 09/19/2009 :  19:55:30  Show Profile  Visit OLarryR's Homepage
One thing to add, oftentimes when setting up the furling rig and winding it up onto the drum, when using it and you have moderate wind, the furling rig will wind up tighter and you might find that when pulling on the furling line furling up the sail, that the sail does not quite roll up completely. This is generally because of winding it up on a less windy day and then when windy it tightens and more furling line is needed to furl it up completely. The way to ensure you always wind it up completely is to detach the furling line (with sail already furled), then keep turning the drum counterclockwise getting the sheets to wrap around quite a bit onto the sail and then re-attach the furling line. In tis way, when you go sailing and unfurl the sail, regardless of wind conditions, you will always be able to furl the sail away.

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TractorJohn
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Response Posted - 09/19/2009 :  20:38:26  Show Profile
Since this thread is about stting up a boat I will mention what happenned to me. In another time with another boat the PO had hired a yard to rig his boat that I purchased one day, for me to find that they had wound the jib sail the wrong way, thus exposing the sail cloth and not the sunbrella to the uv rays of southern Texas for several years, which in turn weakened the sail cloth but not the sunbrella protective cloth.
The lesson learned is #1 dont trust others to do it right for you. #2 you can rig a sail up side down or backwards and on a roller furler it matters.
What I'm saying is, as obvious as it seems, be sure to wind it the way that puts the protective cover on the outside if your jib sail is so constructed. For me it doesn't matter since I now use hank on sails, switch them as needed and take them off when not sailing. I miss roller furling but I had forgotten how nice it is to match the sail to the wind and keep on sailing.

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 09/19/2009 :  21:44:58  Show Profile
To Tractor John's point, I believe most sails are built with the protective fabric (about 4" of colored Sunbrella or treated white dacron) on the starboard side. So the sail should furl, looking downward on the drum, counter-clockwise. That means the furling line is wound clockwise onto the drum. Check where your sun protection on your sail is, and make sure you're furling in the right direction.

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cayugaboater
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Response Posted - 09/20/2009 :  19:14:39  Show Profile
whoa, didn't think about that! was sailing all day today, will check it tomorrow, guess I have a 50% chance of it being right, thx for the heads up on that one. It's a Doyle sail, looks to be in pretty good shape.

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 09/21/2009 :  06:22:16  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Dave Bristle</i>
<br />I believe most sails are built with the protective fabric (about 4" of colored Sunbrella or treated white dacron) on the starboard side.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Unless you buy from North Sails who install the leech/foot cover on the port side of <u>all</u> their stock sails. My previous NS sail was this way as is my new North Sails genoa.

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 09/21/2009 :  07:59:32  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by dlucier</i>
<br /><blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Dave Bristle</i>
<br />I believe most sails are built with the protective fabric (about 4" of colored Sunbrella or treated white dacron) on the starboard side.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Unless you buy from North Sails who install the leech/foot cover on the port side of <u>all</u> their stock sails. My previous NS sail was this way as is my new North Sails genoa.
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">Oh-oh... I just looked at some pix... Mine appears to have been on the port side too, so everything I said above is backwards.

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