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DaveR
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Response Posted - 11/09/2009 : 06:37:18

Here's a pic of the vang. I don't have any tension on it but you get the idea. Oh, and it does interfere with the pop-top, even at the dock. You have to disconnect it from the mast base.

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Response Posted - 11/09/2009 : 06:38:35

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Voyager
 Randy
Do you have a photo of the vang placement and how you lead the line into the cockpit?
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I used to lead my vang to the cabintop, but after encountering some issues, I took a tip from the forum and simply flipped my 6:1 vang so the tail was on the boom end. Works great.

My vang is attached to a bale on the mast that uses the mast step bolt. The other end is attached via a bale on the boom.

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Response Posted - 11/09/2009 : 11:49:03

The first owner of my boat made a lot of mods. All my lines lead straight back to the cockpit. I have vang, Cunningham, adjustable back stay, a traveler on the cabin house like a C-27, full spin rig and 8 winches, 4 on the cabin house and 4 in the cockpit.

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Response Posted - 11/09/2009 : 13:42:32

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Voyager
 Randy
Do you have a photo of the vang placement and how you lead the line into the cockpit?
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My vang does not route back to the cockpit. I looked at doing this the past season but decided to instead add a 20" pendant that makes the vang line easier to control. The pendant raises the camcleat setup high enough that we can adjust the line easily. The line is long enough to reach the cockpit, and we do adjust the vang from the cockpit but it is not "led" back. The line simply lies on top of the coach roof.

Sorry about the poptop. On a C250 the vang does not interefere because the top tilts up instead of the whole thing lifting up.

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Response Posted - 11/09/2009 : 18:56:08

I made a really simple mod on my boat - adding 2 boom preventers on port and on starboard sides. They required blocks at the forward end of the genoa tracks and lines led from the boom vang bale to each block and then to the cockpit. When running downwind wing-and-wing I use the winch and cleat on the side of the lazy jib sheet. Later, I want to add cam cleats or clam cleats to be used for these lines only.

I'm surprised that Jim B. didn't list these lines on Indiscipline. I don't remember seeing a preventer on Jim's boat, but I bet he has one ready to lead back to the cockpit for just that use!

I even tested my preventer by turning upwind to simulate an accidental jibe, and the boat turned around with the boom held safely all the way out. Nice!

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Response Posted - 11/09/2009 : 21:16:56

Randy - Sounds like I can add an S hook on the bale on the mast end so I can remove the vang whenever I want to. Running a control line into the cockpit should be easy enough.

Dave Robbins - Thanks for the photo - what is the purchase? 3:1, 4:1? What do you need?

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DaveR
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Response Posted - 11/10/2009 : 06:51:35

Bruce,
You know, I'm not sure what the purchase is but everything I see at Catalina Direct is 4:1 so I imagine that's what it is.

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Nautiduck
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Response Posted - 11/10/2009 : 13:34:05

Bruse I would advise a snap shackle at the mast end. That is what I use. An S hook might allow the vang to come loose when it in not tensioned. Also, if you use a snap shackle it is possible to have the vang do double duty as a preventer by attaching the snap shackle forward to an attachment point on long downwind runs.

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Response Posted - 11/11/2009 : 16:26:42

I'm thinking about moving my lifelines down at the bow so they attach at the bottom of the bow pulpit instead of at the top. I'm hoping this might reduce wear on the bottom of my 150 genny. Any suggestions yay or nay would be greatly appreciated.

Edited by - GaryB on 11/11/2009 16:27:11

Sloop Smitten
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Response Posted - 11/11/2009 : 16:52:12

Gary,
That is where they are attached on my 78 C25. I'm not sure when the switch was made. However, be aware that the difference from the top to the bottom of the bow pulpit may be a shorter distance then the adjusting connectors can accommodate. You would have to shorten the cable in that case and swage a new connector on. You can remove it and check whether it will work before you get too involved.

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GaryB
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Response Posted - 11/11/2009 : 20:33:05

I'll check that out this weekend if I get down to the boat. I figured I would either have to lengthen or shorten the lines.

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DaveR
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Response Posted - 11/12/2009 : 06:25:08

I attached a 1 foot 1/4" (I think) line at the tack of my jib to get it off the deck. Works very well and allows you to see under the sail much better.

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GaryB
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Response Posted - 11/12/2009 : 18:54:30

I have one for my 110 and it works very well but I don't think I have enough room to add one for my 150. I'll check that out this weekend also.

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