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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 03/05/2010 : 10:51:49

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by jebrant
 ...I was concerned about a standard half-ton pulling the boat and trailer which combined I estimate being a 6000 pound load... <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">That's a conservative guess. With engine, sails, anchor, rode, cushions, batteries, etc., etc., (and trailer)... most reports I've heard for C-25s were in the sevens to low eights. In your case, that's exacerbated somewhat by the higher center of gravity because of the fin keel. Somebody here reported on a towing service within the past few months--it sounded relatively inexpensive (remember I said relatively). Does anybody remember the details?

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Response Posted - 03/05/2010 : 10:59:29

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by jebrant
 . . . Am I right in guessing you flew from the East coast out West to buy the boat, bought a truck and trailer and then towed it back to the East coast?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
Hi James,
This whole odyssey was a mix of pleasure and business. We are based in Pittsburgh, purchased the boat on a cradle on the east coast. Had a trailer built on the west coast, did the math on having it delivered to Pittsburgh and bought a truck instead not far from the trailer manufacturer. Flew one-way to CA to pick up trailer and truck and headed back to Pittsburgh, then back to Marshfield, MA to retrieve boat. All of this activity occurred over a 3 month period.

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John Russell
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Response Posted - 03/05/2010 : 11:04:13

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"> This whole odyssey was a mix of pleasure and business. ...
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">That's at least the second time you've used that word in this thread. I'm wondering what the name of the new boat will be?

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Response Posted - 03/05/2010 : 11:50:42

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by John Russell
 <blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"> This whole odyssey was a mix of pleasure and business. ...
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"> I'm wondering what the name of the new boat will be?

<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">Good one John!!!

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 03/05/2010 : 12:00:30

Finder's fee!!

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jebrant
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Response Posted - 03/05/2010 : 14:31:52

yeah I'm doing a partial DitY move.
Well it is a pretty good boat trailer that has all the tall welded support arms with adjusters built into them. They support the boat in place with the tall fin keel sitting on a wood pad at the bottom point of the trailer. The load was pretty well balanced and the previous owner and I launched it with a chevy 14pax 2wd van quite nicely. The trailer is a Four Wynns and is only maybe 2-3 years old. It looks almost as nice as the one in the pictures above except for the tall supports for the hull with the finn keel. I'm just trying to do the math if I bought a 3/4ton used truck here and towed it myself, would I be better off spending the 3k on a truck and adding another 1K for fuel costs with the end result of having a truck left over, versus spending the 3K for someone else to move it.

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John Russell
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Response Posted - 03/05/2010 : 14:43:55

Your formula sure looks like it adds up to buying a truck. Just be sure the brakes, the transmission fluid, and rear end is in good shape and that it is really rated for the load. Remember the load includes whatever you might put in the cab with you as well as the bed of the truck.

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Response Posted - 03/07/2010 : 19:57:00

OJ, sorry to hijack your thread with my own needs but thanks for the help though!
I appreciate all the intelligent feedback about loads, balance, and in general safety. Especially that good point about the high center of gravity due to the fin keel. I think I'll wait for the final decision until I shop around for some good used trucks and see what I can grab one for. I saw quite a few for pretty good prices in the past three to four months but of course I'm not ready to buy until April. I will contact some people about transport and if I can't get it done for between 1K and 2K then I'm probably going to do it myself.

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Response Posted - 03/08/2010 : 06:54:48

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by jebrant
 . . . OJ, sorry to hijack your thread . . . <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">Jim, not at all - I think we are all glad whenever someone benefits from our banter.

Markets also played a role in our truck purchase. The vehicle we found in CA is in near new condition. Here in Pittsburgh, a truck this age is normally rusted to the point that it is ready to be retired. We figured if the 1/2t wasn't up to the job - we'd simply sell it for a tidy profit - as here in the rust belt, it would be highly sought after.

I failed to mention that I also installed a transmission cooler before making the trip to fetch the boat!

Edited by - OJ on 03/08/2010 07:29:27

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Response Posted - 03/08/2010 : 07:20:25

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by jebrant
 
I appreciate all the intelligent feedback about loads, balance, and in general safety. Especially that good point about the high center of gravity due to the fin keel. <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Having never towed a swing-keel, I can't speak to the center of gravity issue from the "I've done both" camp, but remember that most of the weight of the boat is in the keel, so it isn't so much that you have a high CoG, as it is that you will have a great deal of windage. When a semi-truck passed, I really felt it. And when the hobby-horsing started, it really got a rhythm going.

If you decide to tow yourself, have a plan B. I'm not saying don't do it, I am saying make sure you have the right equipment in place, and have an escape plan.

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