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skrenz
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Initially Posted - 02/24/2010 :  11:02:17  Show Profile
Like many of us I have a boom vang block and tackle setup connecting between the mast plate and an attachment on the boom.
I have two questions:
1. Who has the lead for the vang coming off of the top or boom end of the vang as apposed to the bottom or mast end of the vang.
2. More importantly, what do you do with the fall? Do you lead it back to the cockpit, just coil it up, hang it on the mast, on the boom?

Finally, those of you who use the pop top in an up position at dock, any great ideas on dealing with the vang when raising the pop top?

Thanks in advance.
Steve Krenz
`Elan
1978 SR/SK #482
Santa Fe, New Mexico
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John Russell
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Response Posted - 02/24/2010 :  11:36:08  Show Profile
Mine comes off the top, nearest the boom but I think I might change it this season just to see the effect. I have tied the end of the fall into a monkey fist and it sits on the cabin top within reach of the cockpit. I like the "handle" that the monkey fist provides.
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Even Chance
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Response Posted - 02/24/2010 :  15:09:32  Show Profile
I reversed my vang shortly after buying the boat, so the lead would be at the boom end. It's much easier to manipulate there. If I need to douse the main quickly, I wrap the lead around the furled sail to keep it in place. When I put the sailcover on, I wrap the lead around the outside as an extra tie.

The mast end of my vang is attached to the hound with a snap shackle. When I put the poptop up, I simply unsnap the vang and let it drape over the top.
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RCarie
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Response Posted - 02/25/2010 :  07:39:39  Show Profile
I have the CD #E1858-Boom Vang. It comes with a cam cleat. CD shows the Cam Cleat at the bottom or mast end. For the life of me, I can't see how this could work. I previously had the Cam Cleat at the top or boom end, with the bitter end dangling in the cabin. This set-up works great, but a little messy. Last year I flipped it, removed the Cam Cleat, and brought the bitter end back to the cockpit through the starboard deck organizer and rope clutch. I have less mess, but have found that when the rope clutch is tight on a port tack, I'd better be prepared to release tension if I switch to a starboard tack.

Happy Sailing,
Randy Carie
Indiana
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DaveR
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Response Posted - 02/25/2010 :  08:11:04  Show Profile  Visit DaveR's Homepage
I've got an average of 10 knots of wind around here so the vang generally isn't crucial. Up to now I have my cam at the deck but I think that it makes a lot more sense at the boom and will change it over as soon as I remember
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crcalhoon
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Response Posted - 02/25/2010 :  08:58:20  Show Profile
Let me preface this by saying that I have never raced to speak of. I once had a very experienced racer on my boat who convinced me to put the cam cleat on the bottom of the boom vang. That way you can exert more force pulling up on it. So I did it. He was right, in that by standing at the side of the mast you can really pull up hard on the vang. He was wrong for a cruising sailor who doesn't want to leave the cockpit. The vang works much better and more easily if the cleat is on the boom end and readily accessible right there above the hatch. Just reach forward, grab and yank.
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Response Posted - 02/25/2010 :  09:46:56  Show Profile
...or lead it back to a winch and clutch.
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Peregrine
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Response Posted - 02/25/2010 :  11:41:24  Show Profile  Visit Peregrine's Homepage
<font face="Comic Sans MS"><font size="2"><font color="navy">I reverse the vang and lead the line to the cabin top where I can reach it.
While sailing the line is dangling near the companionway.
At the end of the day I coil the line and tuck it in the sail cover.
The end that attaches to the mast plate has a snap shackle and I unclip it and hook it over a cleat that is on the mast.
The cleat is no longer used as I have all my lines led aft to clutches. That way I can raise the pop top.</font id="navy"></font id="size2"></font id="Comic Sans MS">
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JohnP
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Response Posted - 02/25/2010 :  13:40:53  Show Profile
My boom vang is rigged with the running end at the boom. I do not release the snap shackle on the vang to raise the pop-top, but rather feed a lot of line through the vang blocks. Since I sail in light winds on hot summer days with the pop-top up, I need to have the ability to close the pop-top and operate the vang immediately, under some conditions. So I leave it attached.

By the way, a PO added a wing nut to the pop-top bracket.
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Unsinkable2
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Response Posted - 02/26/2010 :  11:03:59  Show Profile  Visit Unsinkable2's Homepage
Thanks to JohnP's PO. The little knob on the poptop bracket has always been a bother - and it never occured to me to put a wing nut (or maybe a larger knob?) there. Great idea.
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JohnP
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Response Posted - 02/26/2010 :  14:55:37  Show Profile
I use both the original knurled cylindrical nut and the wing nut on top of that, to lock the original nut in place.
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