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Mike013
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Initially Posted - 03/31/2010 :  08:27:24  Show Profile
Anybody install a Boomkicker lately? My question is; is the roll stop assembly necessary? According to the the manufacturer, some buyers elect not to install it on the 250.
Mike
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MartinJW
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Response Posted - 03/31/2010 :  11:11:29  Show Profile
The roll stop assembly was NOT required for our 2008 C-250 #973. (By the way, we're not thrilled with the boomkicker set-up, so we returned to the original topping lift arrangement.)

Whereabouts do you sail?
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Mike013
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Response Posted - 03/31/2010 :  12:19:26  Show Profile
Millerton lake, just north of Fresno. What was the problem with the Boomkicker?
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Nautiduck
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Response Posted - 03/31/2010 :  12:30:32  Show Profile
We have the roll stop assembly. It was easy to mount and does the job. I think the current thinking is that a 25' boat does not necessarily need the roll stop. We have had our Boom Kicker for 3 seasons and prefer it over a topping lift. Some people love them and some don't. I like the fact that it always is working and keeping the boom out of the cockpit and the crew's heads.
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Response Posted - 03/31/2010 :  12:52:01  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Nautiduck</i>
<br />We have the roll stop assembly. It was easy to mount and does the job. I think the current thinking is that a 25' boat does not necessarily need the roll stop. We have had our Boom Kicker for 3 seasons and prefer it over a topping lift. Some people love them and some don't. I like the fact that it always is working and keeping the boom out of the cockpit and the crew's heads.
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Mike & Randy:

I'm pretty sure that the roll stop requirement is associated with the boom/gooseneck design, not the size of the boat. Earlier C-250s had a boom that could rotate on the gooseneck, and thus a "roll stop assembly" was necessary for optimum function of the Boomkicker. (At least, I think that this is correct...)

Yes, some people like the Boomkicker, and theoretically I like it, too. However, in practice...

Our only complaint was that so many of our guests on the boat would instinctively grab the boom to steady themselves, and this caused a number of near-overboards at the dock!

When I have a little more time and money, I'm going to install a rigid boom vang.

Hope this is helpful,
Martin
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Nautiduck
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Response Posted - 03/31/2010 :  13:30:46  Show Profile
Our 2000 C250WK does have a "rotating" boom.

This is from the Boomkicker company site:

Q: The boom rolls on a gooseneck pin. Is this a problem?
A: Not with the smaller models, but as boats approach 30', to avoid undue stress on the boom fitting, it is best if booms are fixed in the upright position. If necessary we have a fitting which mounts on the mast, under the gooseneck to hold the boom in the upright position.

So, if you have the rotating boom attachment then it seems optional. When we bought our Booomkicker it was a model specifically for the C250 and included the roller stop.

We point out to our guests that the boom does have some "give" to it if grabbed.
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Response Posted - 04/04/2010 :  06:10:59  Show Profile
I modified the end cap of the boom to stop rotation. You unscrew and remove the cap from the boom. Inside you will find a jam-nut of sorts. It takes alot of pressure, but can be removed by securing the outside end and unscrewing it. I bought a grade 5 Nylock nut of the same threading and tightened it to the point where the boom cannot rotate. You have to align the connection before final torquing. After yesterdays sail (7 hrs), I'm happy with the results. (just remebered, you have to remove the internal sheave pin and sheaves also, then reassemble)
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