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windsong
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Initially Posted - 04/12/2010 :  06:24:33  Show Profile
In two weeks I'll be making a four-day trip from Myrtle Beach, SC to Oriental, NC with two other grown men as crew. Above decks, Windsong is ready. Below decks is another story. Since buying Windsong, I've done practically nothing belowdecks to create stowage.
What are some of the way you have created stowage on your 25? I could really use some ideas fast.
Thanks!

Michael Hetzer
"Windsong"
2009 Catalina 250 WK HN984
Myrtle Beach, SC
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Dave5041
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Response Posted - 04/12/2010 :  07:25:34  Show Profile
Nothing major, but gear hammocks in the v and quarterberths. I also often remove the inboard quarterberth cushion before a cruise so Rubbermaid containers sit on the fiberglass and the outboard cushion keeps them in place in normal conditions and still provides a place to sleep
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JohnP
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Response Posted - 04/12/2010 :  09:06:04  Show Profile
With three sleeping aboard I set up a queen size air mattress for 2 in the cabin and the quarterberth for the 3rd. The V-berth is all for storage most of the time.

Edit: Has anyone tried a big air mattress, or a combo of air mattresses across a C-250?

That is, can you increase the sleeping area forward and use the quarterberth for storage? Would you want to?
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Prospector
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Response Posted - 04/12/2010 :  09:23:18  Show Profile  Visit Prospector's Homepage
We spent a couple weeks aboard with a family of 4, including a baby. It was cramped for th efirst couple days.

Extra stowage was used in the following locations:
- Dry Bags under the Vee berth (attach ropes so you can retrieve them, and attach the ropes to the door at the front with tags on them)
- Pots/pans were kept under the stbd settee. (put a piece of plywood over the depth sounder through-hull & paddle wheel to protect them.
- Under the Q-berth there is room for a couple of small rubber-maids, but they will be near impossible to retrieve. Good for stuff to be eaten late in the trip.

Best advice is to pack light or you will have noplace to move and the boat will look like this: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_UhHjaWMDClw/SqfKP8DmSsI/AAAAAAAAAL0/GdgcEIpXBh8/s1600/Copy%2Bof%2BP1100789.JPG
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John Russell
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Response Posted - 04/12/2010 :  10:40:28  Show Profile
Michael has a C250 guys.

I'm looking forward to reading this one cuz I haven't really figured anything out yet either -- after 3 years!

One thing I am going to do this season is install a dock box at my slip. A lot of the crap that is dumped below will end up in that box. I.e. cleaning products that aren't needed underway; extra PFDs (I have 7-8 but usually only need 3); etc.,etc.
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John Russell
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Response Posted - 04/12/2010 :  10:58:28  Show Profile
John, the 250 has a double wide berth aft of the companionway so, IMO, trying to manipulate the table hanging on the compression post, not to mention the compression post itself would make a "double" across the middle of the cabin more trouble than value.

Chris, unfortunately, that looks a bit like my boat on a typical June afternoon. The concept of "a thing for every place and a place for every thing" doesn't really resonate with my crew.
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OLarryR
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Response Posted - 04/17/2010 :  21:17:20  Show Profile  Visit OLarryR's Homepage
You can make better use of the area under the VBerth but the transducers, wiring, etc is generally located there and so that area in many cases goes unused for fear of damaging the electronics. When you have more time, you could protect/isolate the transducer area and then be able to use that space under the VBerth for stowage. Here is one way to build a shelf and isolate the electronics from stowage: (More photos on my website)
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Patrice C25
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Response Posted - 04/19/2010 :  11:14:32  Show Profile
Hi,
Larry's idea is a good one.
Did the same in wood after seing is pictures.
Can now use this area without being afraid to damage anyting, or having something to hit the thru-hull valve while sailing.
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Voyager
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Response Posted - 04/19/2010 :  21:06:42  Show Profile
I use the V-Berth for most of my storage. The big stuff.

I've got three large plastic container bins with lids for spare clothes, bedding, tools and supplies, and three large canvas bags below the flats for first aid, warmer clothes and toiletries.

If I have to really load up the V-berth, I can place an 18" x 18" sheet of 1/4" plywood up against the inside of the bulk-head so I can literally fill it to the brim with "stuff" like tool cases, suitcases and clothing bags.

I've found a 3.5 day cooler that fits right behind the companionway stairs, and can keep up to two large plastic containers with lids behind the cooler in the quarterberth. I fill these with dry food, fruit, cereal, crackers, granola bars and other non-perishables. Some favorite supplies are drink boxes (apple, orange, cranberry, grape) and "parmalat" milk boxes. The milk is whole, low fat or skim milk that is packaged so that it does not require refigeration until opened. I use it for my cereal and coffee. They keep for about a year without chllin', just check the "Use-By" dates.

The galley stove is stored behind the head, the pots and pans are stored in the old cooler, and cups, glasses, plates and utensils are in the galley cabinet that used to house the curtain-burner (the alcohol stove) - thanks Dave.

Spare lines and the spare anchor live under one dinette seat, while the other seat stores additional drinking water in plastic bottles.

I usually sleep on the starboard settee or in the quarterberth if solo, or if the Admiral is with me, we arrange the dinette + starboard settee + a filler board across the corridor to set up a queen-sized air mattress.

Kudos to Frank Butler for creating such a spacious design in a small space!

Not sure what I'd do with three guys though. Maybe make one stand watch while the others sleep?
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Stinkpotter
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Response Posted - 04/20/2010 :  12:52:41  Show Profile
Lots of nice ideas for the wrong boat... The two interiors have almost <i>nothing</i> in common.
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Voyager
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Response Posted - 04/20/2010 :  15:36:41  Show Profile
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windsong
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Response Posted - 04/20/2010 :  16:44:06  Show Profile
Bruce,
Your ideas, while not specific to my boat, are still helpful. So... thanks!
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bigelowp
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Response Posted - 04/20/2010 :  18:48:36  Show Profile
Interesting post. I think the take aways for many of us -- regardless of type of boat and/or interior arrangement -- are, 1. that we need to get our maintenance "stuff" off so the space can be used for cruising "stuff"; 2. travel light and think through what you need vs want; and 3. get creative with every nook and cranny.

I also think about the Hornblower series where before he left port he always got in a small boat and went around his ship to make sure the balance was correct. While getting all that "stuff" to fit in may be possible, you need to make sure the balance is well distributed and things are lashed down!
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