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Fleet
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Initially Posted - 05/05/2010 : 04:49:07

In front of the forestay at the very tip of the bow is a vertical metal tang approx 5" tall. There is a hole at the top. What is it called and what is it's purpose?

Fleet
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SailCO26
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Response Posted - 05/05/2010 : 06:02:47

Interesting... happen to have a pic?

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Response Posted - 05/05/2010 : 06:37:36

It might be the "bow plate" that is designed to hold not only the forestay but also the foresails or furler. Is your forestay not attached to the foreward-most point on the bow?

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Response Posted - 05/05/2010 : 06:51:05

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by JohnP
 Is your forestay not attached to the foreward-most point on the bow?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">That's where I was going, too. But then 5" sounds rather long and the forestay tang is not quite vertical.

I'm trying to remember if it's the J/22 or the J/24 folks that use an extra tang up front to keep the spin sheets out of the drink, but then I'm not sure what the hole would be for...

Jim

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Response Posted - 05/05/2010 : 07:07:24

Hopefully I'm attaching the picture correctly.

Couldn't get a zoomed in picture easily but you can see the tang at the bow

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Response Posted - 05/05/2010 : 07:26:05

I wonder if the PO attached a block for a downhaul.

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Response Posted - 05/05/2010 : 07:40:38

I think that's the tang where the forestay attaches, but mine (and the others I recall seeing) are all bent somewhat aft.
Jim

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Response Posted - 05/05/2010 : 08:01:26

Here's a zoom in on an old pic of what mine looks like. I'll try to remember to take a cellphone shot (camera dead) before the race tonight.

Jim

Edit: my pic link isnt working, try this:
http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/G_WANeaJ34NdcyP29ftctKXoVeFCvOY2liJh9OKWboU?feat=directlink

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Response Posted - 05/05/2010 : 09:25:36

A previous owner seems to have re-rigged the forestay onto one of the jib attachment points, maybe to put a spinnaker tack line out front.

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Response Posted - 05/05/2010 : 09:28:57

Hey, by the way, that is some great SNARL you have there. When you're racing, I bet your competitors will just faint and fall overboard!

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Response Posted - 05/05/2010 : 09:37:13

Yeah, I love the paint job, P 40-ish.

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Response Posted - 05/05/2010 : 09:41:18

I would not use the jib tack to support the forestay, and move the forestay back to where it was structurally designed to function.

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Response Posted - 05/05/2010 : 09:42:11

Love the paint job, but would not want to race it. RC knows exactly who you are if you're OCS, no matter where down the line you are...

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Response Posted - 05/05/2010 : 10:55:22

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Yeah, I love the paint job, P 40-ish.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
Ditto, love the [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Tigers"]Flying Tigers[/url] paint job.

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Response Posted - 05/05/2010 : 12:40:04

So for most Capri's, the forestay connects to this vertical tang. The tang is slightly bent backward. The jib attachment that my forestay connects to has a flange between the two jib hooks and is a production item. Thanks for the comments on the paint job. One of our local racers commented that after a couple of beers, he would be intimidated.

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Response Posted - 05/05/2010 : 12:47:02

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Fleet
 Thanks for the comments on the paint job. One of our local racers commented that after a couple of beers, he would be intimidated.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">LOL, around here it would be the other way around - give 'em a few beers and they turn game!

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Response Posted - 05/05/2010 : 19:44:35

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by PCP777
 Yeah, I love the paint job, P 40-ish.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">All you need now is a name that goes with the graphic.

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Response Posted - 05/06/2010 : 07:49:40

Ok, my apologies for the cr*ppy pic, my cellphone camera isnt that great and when I took the pic I couldnt see the image at all so I was guessing at the shot. Yes, the topsides are absolutely FILTHY - we had a bout of "mud rain" after last weeks 20sG30s winds and this was the first time back to the boat.

http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/ObVJCRnF2imCfQy9oDyz3KXoVeFCvOY2liJh9OKWboU?feat=directlink

I need to hit the boat again tonight, so can take another if necessary.

Jim

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Response Posted - 05/06/2010 : 08:04:05

Thanks for the pic. It appears my forestay is attached approx where you have the spring loaded block. I think I will move the forestay up to the tang where it belongs.

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Pirate Princess
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Response Posted - 05/11/2010 : 19:37:47

I think that is to hold spinnaker sheets captive to keep them from slipping from the bow. On some boats I have seen people tape a batten up there for that purpose.

Does that make sense?

Karen

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Response Posted - 05/15/2010 : 06:43:24

Hey Karen, Hope you have been able to get onto the water. I finally made it back in town and went out to the Capri yesterday. We have three other Capri 25's in our Marina and I inspected their bow. All three use that vertical tang to attach their forestay. For some reason my previous owner moved it off the tang.

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EUSJIM
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Response Posted - 05/15/2010 : 21:11:52

I agree that the tang was added to keep spinnaker sheet out of the water. The hold probably just came as part of the tang.
My J22 was rigged similarly to the Capri 25 in this respect. I would be scared to use this as a forestay attachment as it is a flimsy piece of stainless.

Jim
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Lake Ray Hubbard, Rockwall, Tx

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Response Posted - 05/16/2010 : 04:51:38

On my boat, the front tang is very similar to the twin rear tangs for the backstay. I've attached my forestay to this tang since day one and been through some pretty heavy winds with it (30 knots). I've been knocked down a few times but never seen any fatigue from the front tang. I'm wondering if newer boats have a heavier tang than older boats? I can not find any documentation on this aspect of the boat. I'm going to measure mine next time out and I'll report back. Wonder if the Wayzata crowd can weigh in with a survey of their fleet?

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Response Posted - 05/16/2010 : 20:51:21

I spoke too fast before. Below is a picture of the bow of Capri 25 hull 181. Thought I had a tang to hold up the spinnaker line, but do not. I can't quite make our your boat, but my picture is clear on position of the forestay, with jib halyard to be connected behind the tang.
Now I find that I do not know how to insert a picture into this email. Can someone advise how to add picture? It is a ,jpg I see the insert picture command above, but just get
Regards,
Jim

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Ham-It-up
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Response Posted - 02/01/2011 : 20:17:55

The plate you are asking about is in fact used for attaching the headstay to the bow. When you connect the stay let it out to about 31'-1/4" as a starting point. If there is too much headstay sag, tighten the backstay without using the backstay adjuster to straighten/tension the headstay. The attachment point you are using now is for snapshackles with d-shackles for sail-tacks attachment (or use the horns for the tack).

If the bow chainplate is loose; tighten the screw or add a 6"x1" Stainless-Steel chain plate welded to the bottom of the original and counter sink a couple SS 3/8" dia. screws and nuts with large flat washers to distribute the bow stress and insure if you hit another boat the smaller chain-plate won't part from the bow and your mast comes down.

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