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TCurran
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Initially Posted - 06/02/2010 : 16:59:06

I did a search for a related topic, but couldn't find one (I'm sure there has to be). Has anyone bought and installed the "Stem fitting w/anchor roller" from Catalina Direct? Or has another way to install an anchor roller? If there is an earlier topic please point me that way.

On another note, hull number 0001 (name is "Confetti" I think)is sitting on a trailer in our marina. Looks like its in pretty good shape.

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tom

Tom Curran
1981 Capri 25 Hull #101 "Dirty Debbie"
1988 Watkins 30
PAFB, FL

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OJ
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Response Posted - 06/02/2010 : 18:00:34

This?

http://www.catalinadirect.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.display&product_ID=584&ParentCat=35

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Leon Sisson
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Response Posted - 06/03/2010 : 04:23:25

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by TCurran Has anyone bought and installed the "Stem fitting w/anchor roller" from Catalina Direct? Or has another way to install an anchor roller? <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">I installed the Catalina Yachts factory upgrade stem fitting w/roller over 10 years ago on my 1979 C-25. (Looks like the same part.) It's an excellent upgrade. The design and workmanship on my unit is outstanding. It has been completely trouble free.

Besides the added convenience of an anchor roller, putting this unit on an early C-25 also fixes a weakness in the original forestay attachment by adding a true stem fitting chainplate in place of what was essentially a padeye.

I use it with a 22# Claw (Bruce clone) anchor, 20' of 5//16" chain, and 7/16" nylon double braid. I cross drilled a hole in the anchor shank for the locking pin of the stem fitting. The roller assembly seems to make the large anchor much easier to handle.

Installation required some minor custom fitting, as the C-25 hulls and decks don't all fit together exactly the same at that spot.

-- Leon Sisson

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Response Posted - 06/03/2010 : 06:18:52

Like my '85, I suspect the '84 has the upgraded stem fitting with the tang down the bow. CD's might or might not match the bolt holes down the bow, since it's intended as an upgrade. (It probably does.) It might be simpler and no less functional to add a roller, sized for your particular anchor, along side.

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TCurran
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Response Posted - 06/03/2010 : 07:28:54

OJ,
Yes.

Leon/Dave,
Thanks for the feedback. Will look into the options Dave mentioned.

After this past weekend, my crew (wife) complained how hard it was to deploy and retrieve the anchor around the roller drum compared to my buddies Watkins 25 with a pulpit and roller. Somehow her complaints always end up costing me money in upgrades.

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Response Posted - 06/03/2010 : 08:26:45

Even easier...

It's the shiny thing behind the roller that really rocks!

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Steve Milby
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Response Posted - 06/03/2010 : 08:38:18

An anchor roller would be a big help to your crew, but it would also help if you start the engine, put it in forward gear at about idle speed, and let the engine drive the boat forward slowly, while she pulls up the anchor. By doing so, it will reduce some of the load on the anchor line. She won't have to pull the weight of the boat forward, while raising the anchor. Better yet, if I were you, I'd raise the anchor and ask her to take the helm.

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Bill Holcomb
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Response Posted - 06/03/2010 : 12:08:49

Hi Tom
Here's a link to the tech-tip page that shows the anchor roller that I installed on Snickerdoodle several years ago. The roller certainly helps bot deploying the anchor and getting it back.
http://www.catalina-capri-25s.org/tech/tech25/tt023.asp
Bill Holcomb - C25 Snickerdoodle #4839
BTW: Don't forget to tie the end of the anchor line to something sturdy on your boat just in case that you let go of the anchor line and it gets away from you. You'd hate for the whole lash-up to end up on the bottom...

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TCurran
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Response Posted - 06/03/2010 : 12:50:53

Dave,
It's what's behind the "shiny thing" that's the problem, noisy, stinks, and uses too much gas (or diesel). But thanks anyways...

Steve,
It's not the pulling part, I already do everything you state, it's just the last little bit and getting the anchor on the boat and in the locker. I can't convince her to take the helm during any tight procedures (anchoring, pulling anchor, docking, etc).

Bill,
Thanks, I looked at the tech tips but did not realize you had to click on different parts of the drawing for tips for different areas on the boat. Still learning my way around the site. Can you or do you, store the anchor attached in your roller while underway? Anchor line is secured, thanks.

Appreciate the input.
tc

Edited by - TCurran on 06/03/2010 12:54:40

islander
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Response Posted - 06/03/2010 : 16:08:01

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Dave,
It's what's behind the "shiny thing" that's the problem, noisy, stinks, and uses too much gas (or diesel). But thanks anyways...<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
Now hold on... Being an ex power boater for 35 yrs and am now into my 3rd year sailing I can see the virtues of both. Sailing is a whole lot of fun but on the other side its nice to hit the throttle and get where you want to go fast regardless of the wind direction. Also nice to have more than a 9.9 hp when the sky starts to get really ugly.

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Response Posted - 06/03/2010 : 17:18:29

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by islander
 <blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Dave,
It's what's behind the "shiny thing" that's the problem, noisy, stinks, and uses too much gas (or diesel). But thanks anyways...<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">Now hold on... Being an ex power boater for 35 yrs and am now into my 3rd year sailing I can see the virtues of both. Sailing is a whole lot of fun but on the other side its nice to hit the throttle and get where you want to go fast regardless of the wind direction. Also nice to have more than a 9.9 hp when the sky starts to get really ugly.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">I'll accept the comments... I've sailed for almost 60 years and loved my C-25, but as sometimes happens in life, circumstances changed, and I was fortunate to be able to adapt. The "thing" behind the windlass is the same engine as in many Accords--it's much quieter than your sailboat outboards at comparable speeds, makes no noticeable odors, and gets about half the gas mileage of your outboards while cruising easily at five times the speed. (At 5 knots, I get close to what you do under power.) And most of you who actually cruise to places will have trouble convincing me that you don't end up motoring about 3/4 of the time to get there and back.

I agree: "In a sailboat, you're already there." But if the wind is down, way up, or on your nose and "there" is 25 miles away,... I'll be there, and you'll be on your way--probably making noise.

Edited by - Stinkpotter on 06/03/2010 19:41:09

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Response Posted - 06/03/2010 : 19:49:19

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Leon Sisson
 I installed the Catalina Yachts factory upgrade stem fitting w/roller over 10 years ago on my 1979 C-25. (Looks like the same part.) It's an excellent upgrade. The design and workmanship on my unit is outstanding. It has been completely trouble free.
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Leon (or anyone else that has the upgrade), how do you lead the anchor rode to the cleats from the roller? I installed the upgrade but have yet to anchor with it. I played around with a line lead from the roller to the cleats on the port and starboard sides and in each case the line has to lead across the sharp edge at the aft end of the roller frame or take a rather hard bend around a stanchion to get to a cleat. It seems like you either have to work with a chafing issue or you have to put a lot of lateral load on one of the pulpit stanchions. The only other solution I could think of was to install a chock aft of the roller that I could lead the rode through. I'm wondering what you and others are doing.

Thanks! Todd

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TCurran
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Response Posted - 06/04/2010 : 04:48:56

Did not mean to hit a nerve, just a little dig at power-boats. I was a power boater for almost 30 years, owning my first boat when I was 14, I hold a 100 ton CG license, and did not get into sailing until 6 years ago, I appreciate both types of boating.
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Bill Holcomb
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Response Posted - 06/04/2010 : 11:12:13

Hi Tom,
I stow the anchor (Danforth), chain (25 ft.) and line (200 ft.) in the anchor locker at the bow of the boat. The bitter end of the anchor line is tied to one of the bow pulpit stanchions.
Bill Holcomb - C25 Snickerdoodle #4839

Edited by - Bill Holcomb on 06/04/2010 11:13:36

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