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can i buy just the springs for my motor mount?

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limey156
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Initially Posted - 06/28/2010 : 10:06:12

hello gents,

Is there anywhere I can go to purchase just the springs for my mount, the ones that counteract the weight of my motor when raising/lowering? Thanks!

Sun Dancer
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Hammock Island Marina, Chesapeake Bay.

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OJ
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Response Posted - 06/28/2010 : 10:15:15

I don't think anyone will sell you the springs separately as they are installed with tension on them.

What brand mount?

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Ed Cassidy
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Response Posted - 06/28/2010 : 10:23:24

I couldn't find a supplier, short of having them made. Why sell a $4.00 spring when they can sell a $400 mount?

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Response Posted - 06/28/2010 : 11:15:11

I wondered the same thing. Garelick's site states:

"For safety and liability reasons we DO NOT sell parts or springs for any Garelick Auxiliary Motor Brackets to outside parties. The disassembly and reassembly of these products requires a special jig and compression system to safely remove and reinstall the springs. These springs are under high tension and could cause severe injury if incorrectly handled. The only parts for these products that can be safely installed by a customer are limited to the tension knobs, the mounting board that holds the outboard motor and the safety cable. If you need more extensive repairs or parts please contact our Garelick Customer Service Department at: mail@garelick.com and inquire about our re-furbishing program which will restore your auxiliary motor bracket to "new" condition."

There you have it. You'd have to take off the motor mount and (probably) send it to the company for a new spring added or replaced. I bet it's just cheaper to buy a new mount (which I might.)

Carlos

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limey156
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Response Posted - 06/28/2010 : 16:06:00

LAME! After I find some torsion springs on my own and figure out the install I will post up some pics. Wish me luck!

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skrenz
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Response Posted - 06/28/2010 : 16:11:27

Wear Goggles !

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OJ
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Response Posted - 06/28/2010 : 17:09:04

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by limey156
 LAME! . . . and figure out the install I will post up some pics . . . Wish me luck . . .
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">Good luck and yes, please post some pix - that way we can count the stitches and/or your fingers.

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Response Posted - 06/28/2010 : 18:17:05

Erm - Take a look at your mount. Closely. The springs on mine are all inside welds. I would have to cut the tubing, put on a spring, then reweld the mount. I don't think its do-able.

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Response Posted - 06/28/2010 : 18:17:44

They do not explode when disassembled and in the fully raised position there is little spring compression and nothing that will 'take your finger off'. If a couple springs are broken, there is even less tension. Give me a break, they sell new struts for your front wheel drive car that are thousands times more dangerous to disassemble but anyone can go to the local parts store and borrow the spring compressor. There is simply no profit in a couple springs. One thing you can do is watch eBay for a mount with a couple bad springs and snap it up for parts. Keep in mind that the springs that are left are as old as the ones that broke.

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Response Posted - 06/28/2010 : 18:34:55

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Ed Cassidy
 . . . Give me a break . . . <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
Oh okay, leave out counting the fingers part

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Ed Cassidy
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Response Posted - 06/28/2010 : 19:26:33

Thanks, I feel better now. I guess I tend to get on a soap box about some things.....

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redeye
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Response Posted - 06/29/2010 : 03:53:35

http://www.newcombspring.com/

This is the only potential OEM company I could find in the Atlanta area, and I doubt they make anything that big.

I can remember 20 years ago I could just walk into a manufacturing plant and talk a sales rep out of a part ( with cash ) but I've run into the problem that the companies are gone.

Overseas.

Anyway.. anybody know of a company that makes that spring?

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Response Posted - 06/29/2010 : 05:29:39

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by redeye
 . . . Anyway.. anybody know of a company that makes that spring . . . ?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Yeah, Garhauer and Garelick

You need to take into consideration how much your time is worth - searching for the springs then figuring out how to install them without damaging the bracket and/or yourself. I've taken on some pretty challenging projects but this, this I gladly pay.

Keep in mind that the older brackets were built for 2-stroke motors while the later brackets are built for 4-strokes. I believe limey's boat came with a 4-stroke motor while having the 2-stroke bracket.

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limey156
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Response Posted - 06/29/2010 : 06:00:28

I'm totally with you Ed. I have replaced the struts/springs on cars, installed springs on garage doors, etc. If you are scared of a few small torsion springs made to counter a ~80 pound motor, I am not sure how you justify the risks associated with sailing in general. I ride a motorcycle, just spent 6 years flying to Iraq/Afghanistan, basically I am friends with risk and am smart about managing it. Ill post a pic of my mount soon.

And oj you are correct, 4 stroke w/2 stroke bracket.

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limey156
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Response Posted - 06/29/2010 : 06:09:53

Operating from my phone so sorry I can't embed it, but here is a pic of my setup:
http://forums.quattroworld.com/test/msgs/1168.phtml

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Response Posted - 06/29/2010 : 07:32:12

I agree with Ed. I took my Garelick Motor mount bracket off the boat and made some repairs to it a couple of years ago that required de-tensioning the springs and then re-tensioning them. I don't remember exactly how I jigged it up on the worke bench but it wasn't difficult to do it safely using clamps and a block and tackle and didn't take much time. I couldn't find a source for the springs at the time or I would have replaced them too. Let us know if you find the springs anywhere.

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Response Posted - 06/29/2010 : 20:02:22

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by limey156
 Operating from my phone so sorry I can't embed it, but here is a pic of my setup:
http://forums.quattroworld.com/test/msgs/1168.phtml

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Your mount is th esame as mine - how do you propose to add a spring without breaking a weld? I really want to know how this is done.

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panhead1948
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Response Posted - 06/29/2010 : 21:42:09

On my 84 I installed a stainless eyebolt thru the transom. I then hooked a spring from the eyebolt to the motormount. Ther was a tech tip on this.

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