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EUSJIM
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Initially Posted - 07/12/2010 : 19:39:32

Recently read the history of Catalina on the Catalina web site. The Capri 25 was omitted. Anyone know why?

Jim Oursler
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Ray Hubbard
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SailCO26
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Response Posted - 07/13/2010 : 07:16:20

My guess is because Catalina and Capri is kinda like Ford/Lincoln/Mercury. The same, but not.

The REAL reason I'm responding:
I have to ask - is Ray Hubbard named after Ray Wylie Hubbard, or someone else?

Jim

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Ericson33
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Response Posted - 07/21/2010 : 20:56:56

There is allot of info on the Capri25, you just gotta look for it. From memory the boat was developed at a I'd boat to go up aginst the J24 and the Merit 25. At this time you also had the Moore 24 and the San Jaun 24/ IOR. The IOR rule was coming to a close and Butler had the Capri line that included the Capri 36- still a great of boat and still match races. Again from memory the Capri 25 started out with two different of plugs, both boats were used for a year match racing one another, Butler and another made adjustments to the boat with making the boat fast, comfortable, and a great value for his customers that wanted to race and have the comfort of a crusing boat. In 1980 Butler let the Capri line start producing the 25. The boat ran for several years till let's say 1984. production stopped but a few boats were produced from molds, I guess customs. The boat was tinder, light wind the boat uphill struggles and has to be adjusted a little bit off the wind, 5 deg past rumb line and keep the boat flat by playing the traveler in lifts and headers. Down wind let the boat go, get everyone in the rear, plug the scuppers and hold on, the masthead chute and the flat rear section of the boat will allow the boat to plain. In the middle range the boat still needs to be 5 deg. off, keep her flat and you will make up the difference. People racing phrf try and point with hulls that are cutting deeper, the boat is a uldb and should be sailed that way. You have to remember to let the j boats go uphill, cover well at the mark and say goodbye going down. Higher winds the boat is sailed with the forsail, the boat is a masthead rig, unless you have a short cut jib with a pendent you have to reduce the main to clear the slot for the jib. 20+ you will see the jib start to backwind the main sail, at this point forget the main but to balance the rig, backstay on all the way, and use the forsail to get the boat to the mark. Downwind close the hatches, set the chute and get everyone back in the cockpit.

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EUSJIM
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Response Posted - 07/31/2010 : 20:24:37

Still curious..
Thanks for the history of the Capri 25. My original question was why does Catalina in its history not mention the 25. just curious.

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Stinkpotter
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Response Posted - 07/31/2010 : 21:32:30

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by EUSJIM
 My original question was why does Catalina in its history not mention the 25.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">Because they only sold in Minnesota?

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Ericson33
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Response Posted - 07/31/2010 : 22:39:46

It's a Capri, not a Catalina.

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Stinkpotter
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Response Posted - 08/01/2010 : 07:40:33

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Ericson33
 It's a Capri, not a Catalina.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">I looked, and the [url="http://www.catalinayachts.com/about.cfm"]"history"[/url] (scroll down on the page) includes notes about the Capri 16.5, 18, and 22. I suspect the CP-25, numbering only a few hundred hulls, was considered a sort-term experiment that wasn't catching on in the hayday of the J-24. They were building close to a thousand C-25s each year of CP-25 production.

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Steve Milby
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Response Posted - 08/02/2010 : 06:32:24

The Catalina 25 also was omitted from the history, even though thousands were built. I suspect it was a mere oversight that nobody has ever bothered to correct. Personally I don't think it matters. Everyone knows Catalina 25s and Capri 25s were built by Catalina.

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