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magsodrn
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Initially Posted - 08/12/2010 : 12:14:28

New to sailing recently purchased a 25' 1985 swing keel that we are trailering. Doing research on a Gin Pole structure for single person mast raising / lowering.

We have a Tall Rigging boat, took 4 of us to step the mast originally

Any feedback appreciated

Maggie O'
1985 Catalina 25 swing keel
Jordan Lake, Raleigh North Carolina

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John Russell
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Response Posted - 08/12/2010 : 13:00:24

Maggie,
Welcome to the forum. There have been countless discussions on raising the mast here. You'll find lot's of good information and friendly folks.

Search the archives for A frame or gin pole. You'll find a lot. It is generally thought that it's not very safe to attempt to raise the mast without one of these devices. That's particlularly true of the longer, heavier tall rig. Using an a-frame, it can be done, if necessary, singlehanded, although more is better.

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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 08/12/2010 : 15:07:20

Welcome to the world of C25 TR sailing. The tall rig mast is 2ft longer and has a thicker extrusion. Therefore, it is heavier throughout, not just the extra length. We've had our TR only 3 years and have raised and lowered the mast three times. It is intimidating to say the least. I recommend an A-frame rather than a gin pole; it's a bit more stable. You want to be able to keep it centered over the boat and not swinging to one side or the other as you lower/raise it. Check the Technical Tips section of this website, and as John suggested, check the archives of this forum. There has been much discussion already.
I had made an A-frame from 2x4's, but lost it to the flood waters we had here May 1-2. I'm strongly considering the electrical conduit route for my next try.
Don't try it by yourself until you are very comfortable with the process, and have actually done it a few times with helpers there but only watching, such as holding a safety line but slack ready to assist if needed.

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Dave5041
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Response Posted - 08/12/2010 : 18:10:02

I used a gin pole for years before I built a 2x4x10 a-frame; I suggest that you not bother with an interim gin pole. As noted, raise the mast with help and then with an observer, but after a few raisings your confidence will grow. I appreciate an observer/helper, but my 65 y/o bones can easily raise it if nobody is available.

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Even Chance
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Response Posted - 08/12/2010 : 19:28:20

I've found [url="http://www.catalina-capri-25s.org/tech/tech25/nymastup.asp"]this[/url] to be the most helpful way to raise and lower the mast singlehanded.

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John Russell
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Response Posted - 08/12/2010 : 20:29:21

This

is even easier.

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djdurrett
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Response Posted - 08/13/2010 : 14:22:53

I've seen guys use spinnaker poles and 2x4's with the spinn halyard. Best way is to find a mast crane, something most marinas have... I have done it without it (iwo jima style) and it is not fun. If you have a furler, take the sail off. It is heavy and causes twist that will bind the mast step bolt. Also, tape (with electrical tape) the outer and rear lowers in an upright position to the life line. It keeps them from binding in the wrong direction and as you step the mast the tape breaks. Lessons learned the hard way. When I raced on the J24 circuit there was a guy that had an piece of a mast that he salvaged that he used (and we all used) to step the masts. Since our boats don't step to the keel, it is a little easier with the pivot.

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djdurrett
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Response Posted - 08/13/2010 : 14:24:20

Oh and search you tube for stepping a mast on a C25... that may help you.

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magsodrn
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Response Posted - 08/14/2010 : 12:06:24

Many thanks to everyone for the information! I think I have a heading now. You are all wonderful

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