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superbob
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Initially Posted - 08/12/2010 :  13:14:14  Show Profile  Visit superbob's Homepage
I plan on replacing the sink this winter as it's scratched and generates surface rust. Any words to the wise before I dig into this project? For example, I'd appreciate knowing how its attached to the counter or if adhesive is holding it down.

Along the same lines, there's also some thought to removing the sink and the stove and utilizing space that's sorely needed. It would be nice to remove the propane system under the starboard cockpit seat and utilize it for storage, too.

In addition, two large drawers (under the present smaller drawers) and and enclosed one shelf cabinet will take the place of the under the counter cooler.

If you've made any of these changes are there any regrets?

Bob Watson
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John Russell
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Response Posted - 08/12/2010 :  14:59:06  Show Profile
If you have a mortgage on your boat, it's the galley, head and sleeping facilities in combination that make the interest tax deductible on your "second home". That could effect the future sale of your boat. I'd consider making some kind of cover that allows for an increase of counter space. You could always just not store a propane tank in that locker which would allow for a bit more storage.

I assume you're looking to eliminate these because you daysail the boat and don't spend extended visits aboard. Hence, no need to cook. But, if that's the case, what would you use the storage for? I, too, daysail and haven't got enough "stuff" to fill all the spaces that exist already.

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Dan Lamb
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Response Posted - 08/12/2010 :  15:28:45  Show Profile
Bob,

I have a one burner butane stove on my 2006 250 and it is recessed into the aft side of the countertop with a cutting board that fits over it when not in use. The butane is just a small cartridge that slides in and locks in place when in use. I always remove it and stow it in the locker that your propane tank is in. John is correct about the tax benefits with the 250 having all the conveniences. You might try searching for storage ideas on the site. I know I've looked and found an abundance of good ideas with pictures.

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Dkn420
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Response Posted - 08/12/2010 :  19:12:36  Show Profile
Dan: Do you have a photo of the 06 butane burner and canister system, and the name and model #, no rush, just curious.

Dan #727

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mhartong
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Response Posted - 08/12/2010 :  20:28:15  Show Profile  Visit mhartong's Homepage
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Dkn420</i>
<br />Dan: Do you have a photo of the 06 butane burner and canister system, and the name and model #, no rush, just curious.

Dan #727
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It is the Seaward Products Princess Model 1203-1006 http://www.seawardproducts.com/1203-1006.htm

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Nautiduck
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Response Posted - 08/13/2010 :  09:08:36  Show Profile
Bob, I would not advise removing the cooktop and sink. That would adversely impact the value of the boat. The propane system on these 250's is well done with a very good locker, solenoid, etc. I'd look for a way to cover the cooktop and sink with cutting board material for when you need more counter space.

We turned our cooler area into two shelves with storage containers. Flat items such as a tray and utensils go under the bottom shelf. We love it.


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superbob
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Response Posted - 08/13/2010 :  09:57:38  Show Profile  Visit superbob's Homepage
Thanks for these responses and suggestions. I've leaned towards keeping what's there in the name of maintaining the value of a boat that's "stock". The exception would be the area used for the cooler. That has to go. Randy's change to this area creates more space but also allows for the cooler to be placed there again should ever the need arise. Baskets that can be taken in and out of the space are really one great idea.

There's no mortgage or loan on the boat but we do have a second home and an exemption already in place.

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Nautiduck
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Response Posted - 08/13/2010 :  18:03:46  Show Profile
Here's a great cooler area mod:

[url="http://www.catalina-capri-25s.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=20897&SearchTerms=cooler"]Someday Lady Cooler Mod[/url]

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superbob
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Response Posted - 05/06/2011 :  06:51:32  Show Profile  Visit superbob's Homepage
Randy: Today I plan on converting the cooler space into storage . . .identical to your photos here. Where did you pick up the baskets? They're a perfect fit!

BTW: Per the conversation here regarding the Princess stove, the ignitor will not function (have propane to the source but no spark). Any suggestions?

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delliottg
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Response Posted - 05/06/2011 :  07:15:08  Show Profile  Visit delliottg's Homepage
On our '97 model, you have to turn on a breaker to enable the stove igniter. Don't recall which one off hand.

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TakeFive
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Response Posted - 05/06/2011 :  07:18:56  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by superbob</i>
<br />...BTW: Per the conversation here regarding the Princess stove, the ignitor will not function (have propane to the source but no spark). Any suggestions?
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My ignitor did not function either at first. I later discovered that although the solenoid was hot-wired (i.e., bypassed the 12v switch panel), the ignitor was wired to another (unlabeled) switch on the panel. So I suggest you try turning on different switches on your panel to see if one of them activates your ignitor.

I have since labeled the unmarked switch as "cooktop" and wired both the ignitor and the solenoid to it, since I cannot think of any time I would want to use one without the other. It also provides additional safety against accidentally leaving the solenoid open, since I always check the panel and turn off all the switches when leaving the boat.

I posted a message about all of this last year, but cannot find it now.

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jbkayaker
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Response Posted - 05/06/2011 :  16:26:06  Show Profile
If you remove the sink don't toss it in the trash. I couldn't find an exact replacement for the sink in my 1999 C250 WK. It wasn't easy to adapt even a close match from West Marine.

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superbob
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Response Posted - 05/06/2011 :  16:42:58  Show Profile  Visit superbob's Homepage
Jim: Past the first post on this topic (August 2010) you'll see that several entries later that I decided to keep both the sink and the stove. A replacement sink was located through Catalina Direct. It fits like a glove.

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Nautiduck
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Response Posted - 05/06/2011 :  19:23:39  Show Profile
We got them at the Container Store or Storables but the merchandise changes so they may no longer be available.

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joelterry
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Response Posted - 05/07/2011 :  17:38:35  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by superbob</i>
<br />Jim: Past the first post on this topic (August 2010) you'll see that several entries later that I decided to keep both the sink and the stove. A replacement sink was located through Catalina Direct. It fits like a glove.
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How difficult was the replacement of the sink?

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superbob
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Response Posted - 05/07/2011 :  19:17:44  Show Profile  Visit superbob's Homepage
Easy. The worst part was removing the factory installed sink. It was held in place with an adhesive that made what could have been an easy task a difficult, time consuming ordeal. Dropping the new sink in and plumbing it was no big deal. Keep your old sink in case you need parts from the drain.

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