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windsong
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Response Posted - 08/30/2010 :  10:21:07  Show Profile
Catalina is sending a replacement pintle, which I will hold as a backup, since I have already made the repair. In a letter from Frank Butler, he writes:
"I discussed this with the Florida plant and Gerry and I agree that you have to tighten the bolt tight. That is important."
Say what you will about this situation, no boat is perfect, and I am impressed that Butler and Douglas are both personally involved. I doubt I could expect that from Beneteau.
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redviking
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Response Posted - 08/30/2010 :  11:30:31  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Stinkpotter</i>Sten would ship the whole thing back to Frank Butler with a note copied to ABYC and maybe the US Coast Guard, with print-outs of this thread attached. Or who knows--maybe he'd send back the <i>whole boat.</i>
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You know I would! The whole boat! I have had a few occasions to mess with companies who provide a "Planned Obsolescence" product. I once put a huge sign outside of our corporate headquarters that read "NYNEX - Send Help." There was a Sat truck and so many phone guys crawling around you would have thunk I had invented the phone. Then there was the time I attached a large 200 lb. Minolta color laser printer - back when they were not cheap - to a bunch of straps and a chain and threatened to drive around until it disintegrated WITH the press in tow.

Ralph Nader said it best, UNSAFE AT ANY SPEED! Tighten the heck out and have the same failure reoccur? Are they high? I would expect this kind of story from a Hunter or MacGreggor owner... Did Frank tell you about how the rudder is probably foam cored now?

sten
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windsong
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Response Posted - 08/30/2010 :  12:10:03  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by redviking</i>
<br />[quote][i]Did Frank tell you about how the rudder is probably foam cored now?
sten
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Huh? I have surface cracks in the gelcoat of my rudder. (You can plainly see them in the photos). I have not worried about them, confident that the strength came from within the rudder. Not true?
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redviking
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Response Posted - 08/30/2010 :  13:44:42  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by windsong</i>
<br /><blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by redviking</i>
<br />[quote][i]Did Frank tell you about how the rudder is probably foam cored now?
sten
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Huh? I have surface cracks in the gelcoat of my rudder. (You can plainly see them in the photos). I have not worried about them, confident that the strength came from within the rudder. Not true?
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Yeah - uh, yeah.... It's not an old boat right? visit www.dragitbacktofrank.com

This is not a Hobie or a Windsurfer.. Under the wrong conditions LIVES could be lost..

I'll truck it back for you!

Probably there are three metal struts within the rudder and a foam core... That's what I hear they are doing these days... Cracks are just an accident waiting to happen.

sten
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