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tinob
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Initially Posted - 11/22/2002 :  14:29:23  Show Profile
What a surprise...Sailing out the Patchogue River on what I thought was to be the third beautiful sail in a row, toying with the idea of keeping the boat in the water all winter if this weather keeps up when all hell breaks loose. On the west side of the jetty over my shoulder, a gunner with decoys deployed lets go at a phantom duck. Scared the pellets out of me, no ducks in sight, might at least have called a starboard don't ya think?

Gad, what next.

Val on "CALISTA" # 3936


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Response Posted - 11/22/2002 :  16:03:49  Show Profile
"Fore!" may be more appropriate. Hope everything is OK. If he was firing in any way in your direction and you had any shot pattering around, you might want to radio the CG and request them to pass the info to Fish & Game, or whatever they call it in NY. If no shot, maybe he was just firing a salute as you went by; if so, you should dip the flag in response.


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Response Posted - 11/22/2002 :  18:09:27  Show Profile
Dip the flag?! Heck, I'd raise my skull and cross bones burgee <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle> !
The minium distance on our lake for discharging firearms for hunting is 100 yards. I don't think hunters have very good depth perception on water . . .

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Response Posted - 11/22/2002 :  20:23:25  Show Profile
But remember you were sailing <img src=icon_smile.gif border=0 align=middle> and a bad day sailing is better than a good day in the office.

Certainly better than driving all day in the misty ran of upstate.

Don Peet
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Response Posted - 11/22/2002 :  22:00:59  Show Profile
In Texas we shoot back....
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Response Posted - 11/23/2002 :  11:58:49  Show Profile
Val: Your flare gun, fired on a low trajectory... <img src=icon_smile_evil.gif border=0 align=middle>

Dave Bristle - 1985 C-25 #5032 SR-FK-Dinette-Honda "Passage" in SW CT

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tinob
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Response Posted - 11/23/2002 :  15:47:04  Show Profile
Steve/Dave,

I like the way youse are thinking but I try to control those impulses. Didn't always have the control and fortunately got away with it.

Did I say that one of my pastimes is building cannons? Well I do. I currently am firing seven of them. One is a triple barreled one but I only count it as one. I was trying to find a suitable location for one in reaction to the shot gun blasts but I'd have a problem with recoil anywhere on the boat. When fired free on the grounds they recoil about ten to twelve feet. Once I tried to control the recoil and fired it in one of those ten cubic foot steel trailers used with garden tractors. The dent in the wall looks like half a tennis ball. On a Catalina that that's big trouble.

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Response Posted - 11/24/2002 :  12:07:18  Show Profile
Val - you must have been a pirate in a previous life!<img src=icon_smile_blackeye.gif border=0 align=middle>
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Response Posted - 11/24/2002 :  21:09:30  Show Profile
Val, I shoot a flintlock rifle for fun, and have an old, cheap percussion pistol I am considering converting into a saluting cannon, just for muzzleloading black powder, should make a significant bang and smoke. Might consider adding birdshot for certain other boaters, fair winds, ron c25srsk 1981 #2343 SW FL


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Response Posted - 11/24/2002 :  23:55:23  Show Profile
I wish I had a cannon......but my targets would be personal water creeps.....you know PWC's....I could put a notch on the tiller for each one that came within range. I'd say 100 yards would be fair.

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tinob
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Response Posted - 11/25/2002 :  08:17:43  Show Profile
WHOAAAAAAAAAAAA!!

Boy, for a sociable, laid back group of sloboaters, I sense some real hostility in this thread. Might it be caused by being on the hard....HARDLY <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>

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osmepneo
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Response Posted - 11/25/2002 :  12:25:53  Show Profile
Years ago my grandfather wanted to mount a cannon on his car so that he could deal with all the bad drivers. My son and I have modified the concept, not a cannon but a thought propelled laser gun that would blast the car off the road and gently pick up the occupants and place them on the side of the road!

So, now we start talking about PWC's, and I'm sure we all have our stupid pwc stories.

1. Several years ago Char and I were on a cruise to Bermuda from NYC. On the way out NY harbor two pwc's raced the cruise ship and cut across the bow, one on port, one on starboard. I just pictured them flipping and being run over by the ship that couldn't have stopped until after the varazanno Bridge.

2. This summer on was on the race committee for the "Around the Lake Race." The spinniker fleet was approaching the starting and I was counting down the time for the starter. "5 - 4 - 3 - 2 - 1 - Gun" and at that exact moment a pwc blasted through the fleet and had the most execellant start. County sheriff was on the scene and picked the guy up in a heart beat.

Maybe I don't need the thought propelled laser gun after all! <img src=icon_smile_cool.gif border=0 align=middle>


Don Peet
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osmepneo
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Response Posted - 11/25/2002 :  12:27:10  Show Profile
Val, No doubt the hostility is from being on the hard <img src=icon_smile_sad.gif border=0 align=middle>



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tinob
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Response Posted - 11/26/2002 :  08:35:09  Show Profile
You're right Don. I'm thinking about staying in the water this winter, based primarily on the exceptional weather of the last few weeks. Yesterday was another one of those days, light winds , no traffic, and the guns were so far off they only made a VAROOOMPH sound. I couldn't find them even with binocs. I'll see if I have a change of mind if this anticipated snow storm materializes. Hope not.

Val on "CALISTA" # 3936
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osmepneo
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Response Posted - 11/26/2002 :  15:25:53  Show Profile
Val,

I'm jealous. but had not mentioned the approaching storm, is it there yet?, I would have.

when we bought our boat we out to Orient Point to look at one that had been in the water for a couple of years. So you could leave it in, and maybe in January go for sail and drive the rest of us northerners crazy! I do that with my car, get the top down at least once a month, so why not sailing!

Don Peet
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ronrryan
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Response Posted - 11/26/2002 :  20:33:35  Show Profile
We sailed on Geat South Bay for at least fifteen years, hauled out in a friends back yard in Amityville using the barge and crane so common then, did our own masts up and down, there and at the canal at Shinnecock on the GSBcruising club outings, can remember many late fall and winter days of sailing, hauling out was painful and often put off too long, also I was once a gunner on the bay so know the other side of the "bangs", miss it all---BUT we have just had four gorgeous days in a row here in SW Fla and the sailing season is just beginning. Fair Winds, ron srsk #2343 1981 ORION


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tinob
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Response Posted - 11/27/2002 :  11:10:20  Show Profile
Don/Ron,

Well the white arrived last night and it's still doing it. It's wet and miserable but not sticking. Hope it melts before the projected cold spell sets in tonight.
Ron,
Would you believe they are still using the barge and crane in some instances. If I were waterfront that's the way I'd go.
I did all my waterfowl shooting in Montauk , folks have a summer place there. I know what the gunners were doing when the salvoed me, just letting go some steam and saying hello. I bear them no greif, they just startled me and I'd have jumped at the oportunity to answer in kind....The gunners greeting. A cannons HARRRRRRRRUUMMMPPP might have tipped their craft. Just as well I didn't have one with me.
So you're an Amitviller hey. I lived in Babylon and Deer Park for thirty some years and did all my sailing in the Babylon to Amity area.
Does Neguntatoque Creek ring any bells? How about Old Fox Creek? The Amityville Cut? I sense the tears coming to your eyes so I'll back off...enough's enough.

Just came from the boat the place looks like a graveyard of blue and or white tombstones, ghastly and the weather keeping me ashore doesn't help either.

Val on "CALISTA" # 3936


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capn rick
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Response Posted - 12/12/2002 :  15:49:48  Show Profile
Gunnery:

I have done the math and can now proceed with mounting two 1/2 scale "Long 9's" (ca 1778)as bowchasers with only minor trim adjustments in time for the spring racing season. AT 300 Lbs ea. with 10 round shot and powder loaded, I anticipate losing only 2 knots off of hull speed, close-hauled. Since most of the local fleet will be in front of me before the 1st mark, I figure on reducing the odds on the downwind leg quite substantially-until the Coast Guard arrives.
Capn Rick "Cavale" (waay too much free time today)


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Response Posted - 12/12/2002 :  16:09:02  Show Profile
I guess we could call that "venting the mains'l". <img src=icon_smile_cool.gif border=0 align=middle>

Dave Bristle - 1985 C-25 #5032 SR-FK-Dinette-Honda "Passage" in SW CT

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