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NautiC25
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Response Posted - 01/23/2012 : 07:14:03

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Stinkpotter
 <blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by pastmember
 I like urethane on tillers. Lots of it.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">I agree... I think Cetol is a bit soft for a tiller, although some have used and liked it. My choice is Minwax Helmsman Spar Urethane--you can also get in in spray cans.

I'm suspicious Dave Robins' pix above include Cetol's gloss top-coat, which I don't use. I prefer the satin finish.
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Well, the damage is done and lesson learned. I used the Cetol on the tiller, and while it looks great!, it is softer than the urethane that was on there before and has that soft, tacky feel to it. Urethane is definitely the way to go for the tiller IMO. Next time......
I'm still going to use the Cetol Marine for the rest of the boat.

Edited by - NautiC25 on 01/23/2012 07:15:18

Steve Milby
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Response Posted - 01/23/2012 : 07:50:05

Whatever you put on your tiller, it will last almost indefinitely if you put a sunbrella tiller cover on it when you leave the boat.

Also, a sunbrella cover over the hatchboards will preserve their finish almost indefinitely. If the snaps for a pop-top cover have been installed on your boat, a hatchboard cover is easy to make and install. If the snaps for a pop-top cover haven't been installed, it's easy to install them.

Also, sunbrella covers for your grab rails are easy to make, and will preserve their finish. The grab rail covers can be held on by velcro, and even last year's hurricane didn't blow them off my boat.

With only a yard or yard-and-a-half of sunbrella fabric, and a couple hours during the winter, you can save yourself many hours and a lot of work annually refinishing your teak.

Edited by - Steve Milby on 01/23/2012 08:00:39

NautiC25
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Response Posted - 01/23/2012 : 08:11:09

I have all but the hatchboard covers now. Unfortunately, the PO didn't and the teak already needed work. The tiller's finish was still ok, but it had some knicks and scratches that I wanted gone.

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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 01/23/2012 : 15:20:31

I'll second Helmsman Spar Urethane for the tiller. Awesome!

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waterbaby
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Response Posted - 01/27/2012 : 10:31:58

I've been following this thread and have purchased Cetol Marine. One of my had rails was broken in Irene and I have purchased a replacement set (turns out CD will only sell them in pairs and I guess it's ok since then they'll match in age). I've started the process of sanding but as much as I sand I never seem to get all the tiny burrs out of the wood. Am I expecting too much? I don't want to sand too much wood away. Since the new rails are um, new, I've been trying to do just a very light sanding on them using 400 super fine finishing sand paper. Should I keep going, switch to a different paper, or is this as good as it gets?

Thanks in advance.

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islander
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Response Posted - 01/27/2012 : 10:58:47

Some teak will sand like that never becoming perfectly smooth, Apply a few coats of the Cetal and let it dry then sand lightly again using a fine grit paper. the little burs will disappear. Now go ahead and add more coats lightly sanding between coats. This is one case where more is better. Its not uncommon to have 10-20 coats or even more.

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waterbaby
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Response Posted - 01/27/2012 : 11:02:14

Thanks Scott - will do. (But I hope it doesn't take 20 coats)

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JimGo
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Response Posted - 01/27/2012 : 20:32:38

What Scott is suggesting is essentially to use Cetol as a "sanding sealer". You're using the Cetol to fill the pores in the grain, then sanding back so everything is flush and applying the "top" coats of Cetol. The trick when using sanding sealers is to be sure you don't sand TOO far, or you wind up opening up new pores.

Good luck!

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waterbaby
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Response Posted - 01/29/2012 : 15:58:13

Well so far I've got two coats of teak oil, and my first coat of Cetol marine. It looks great so far and I'm really proud of myself. I got a little behind because I read the instructions for the Cetol AFTER I had the two coats of teak oil on and found I needed to rub the rails down with a solevent to get the oil out of the surface. Of course I didn't have the solevent, so it was another trip to WM. Those guys are becoming like family.

I'm doing this on the island in my kitchen since I don't have a good place in the garage to do it, and I'm a little sheepish about it because I know if hubby tried to do something like this in my kitchen I'd be raising a ruckous. He's not complaining though, actually he's been nothing but kind about the whole thing. Hmmm... ?

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Response Posted - 01/30/2012 : 06:53:19

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"> actually he's been nothing but kind about the whole thing. Hmmm... ? <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

That's because HE'S not having to do it!

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waterbaby
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Response Posted - 02/03/2012 : 06:06:18

4 coats down. 2 to go? It looks great! I got tired of doing this by myself so hubby has been enlisted and has helped me with a couple of them. Not that it takes that long or is hard. I've just been really busy this week and getting home late and tired. I had hoped to have them done before the weekend. Oh well.

I was looking at the latest 'Sail' magazine the other day and thought 'I would really like to get back to the learning more about the sailing part of this adventure'

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islander
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Response Posted - 02/03/2012 : 07:04:45

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">4 coats down. 2 to go? It looks great! I got tired of doing this by myself <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
We don't allow this kind of talk...It's a labor of love. Has anybody told you about stripping the botom paint yet?

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Dave5041
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Response Posted - 02/03/2012 : 08:34:40

Just a thought: if the wife is often referred to as the Admiral, what is the hubby in Waterbaby"s relationship, Admiral. Bosun or Foremast hand? Does he approve/disapprove the Captain's plans, enforce her orders, or do the grunt work?

edit: Or ballast, as in just going along for the ride?

Edited by - Dave5041 on 02/03/2012 08:36:51

Stinkpotter
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Response Posted - 02/03/2012 : 09:01:47

Movable ballast--sorta like a canting keel, but upside-down.

Edited by - Stinkpotter on 02/03/2012 09:02:05

dlucier
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Response Posted - 02/03/2012 : 09:21:02

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Dave5041
 Just a thought: if the wife is often referred to as the Admiral, what is the hubby in Waterbaby"s relationship...?
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Cabin boy

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Joe Diver
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Response Posted - 02/03/2012 : 09:47:11

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by NautiC25
 Well, the damage is done and lesson learned. I used the Cetol on the tiller, and while it looks great!, it is softer than the urethane that was on there before and has that soft, tacky feel to it. Urethane is definitely the way to go for the tiller IMO. Next time......
I'm still going to use the Cetol Marine for the rest of the boat.
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My major project for this spring (starting now) is refinishing my brightwork. All of it. Inside and out. I planned on using Cetol for everything outside, and good old fashioned Spar or varnish for the inside protected stuff....

Except...the companionway stairs. I was going to use Cetol on them, but if it's "soft and tacky" on such a high traffic area.....what should I use?

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 02/03/2012 : 10:23:58

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Joe Diver
 Except...the companionway stairs. I was going to use Cetol on them, but if it's "soft and tacky" on such a high traffic area.....what should I use?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Cetol is advertised for, and used on, boat decks that are indeed subject to traffic so I don't see why it can't be used on the companionway ladder.

BTW, Houses have stairs. Boats have ladders.

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Sloop Smitten
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Response Posted - 02/03/2012 : 10:25:49

I finished my steps with Cetol and it seems very durable (6 coats). I think the issue with the tiller may be they are not teak and react and feel differently. I did add non-skid strips to the steps as well so that probably helps with the durability.

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Stinkpotter
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Response Posted - 02/03/2012 : 10:46:03

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by dlucier
 BTW, Houses have stairs. Boats have ladders.

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 02/03/2012 : 12:23:20

<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">...and stairs. Ladders (as in swim) have rungs, stairs (as in companionway) have steps.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

When I was in the Navy, aboard ship there were plenty of ladders with steps, but there were no stairs.

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NautiC25
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Response Posted - 02/03/2012 : 12:54:13

The Cetol is fine everwhere else. I just didn't like the feel of it on the tiller. I would definitely use it on the "ladder". ;)

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Joe Diver
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Response Posted - 02/03/2012 : 14:45:29

Okay, I'll give it a try on those wooden things you step on to get in and out of the cabin.

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DaveR
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Response Posted - 02/03/2012 : 19:12:02

Are we really discussing what to call steps/stairs/ladders?

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JimGo
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Response Posted - 02/03/2012 : 20:16:18

Dave, it sounds like you've also noticed that, with winter having set in, the conversation around here has gone down a few rungs. I really hope we can step it up soon!

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NautiC25
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Response Posted - 02/03/2012 : 20:21:31

Maybe we should talk about upgrading the factory sinks and toilet?

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