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TCurran
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Response Posted - 12/08/2010 :  03:53:34  Show Profile
Self tailers are on my wish-list...

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DaveR
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Response Posted - 12/08/2010 :  06:34:06  Show Profile  Visit DaveR's Homepage
What a great idea Peter, I may try that!

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PCP777
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Response Posted - 12/08/2010 :  07:46:41  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by triley</i>
<br />Got self tailing lewmars for the jib sheets. Blush!
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Yeah, that's the best way to have it.

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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 12/08/2010 :  08:32:23  Show Profile
Does anyone out there have two speed winches? They were on the boat when I bought it. Like, dislike? I tend to like them but guys who have crewed with me, who are used to single speed winches, have fussed because the winch handle can't be spun back to start another pull.

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Steve Milby
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Response Posted - 12/08/2010 :  09:49:21  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by dmpilc</i>
<br />Does anyone out there have two speed winches? They were on the boat when I bought it. Like, dislike? I tend to like them but guys who have crewed with me, who are used to single speed winches, have fussed because the winch handle can't be spun back to start another pull.
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">My 25 had two speed Lewmars, and I loved them. They gave extra mechanical advantage, which made sail trimming easier in strong winds. If you turn the winch handle one way, it brings the line in at high speed. If you turn it the other way, it brings the sheet in more slowly. Because it brings the line in regardless of which way you turn the winch handle, you can either "pump" the winch handle forwards and backwards, or you can turn the winch handle in the same direction. After you use them for awhile, you learn that sometimes one method is more efficient than the other.

Regarding your crew's complaint about them, you <u>can</u> turn the winch handle back to "start another pull." When you turn the winch handle back to start another pull on a single speed winch, it doesn't pull in the jibsheet on the backstroke. If you do that on a two speed winch, it pulls in the jibsheet, no matter which way you turn the handle. Thus, with two speed winches, you take in more jibsheet with the same amount of motion.

Two speed winches are especially helpful to racers, because they help crew tail and trim the jibsheet more quickly and easily. They're also helpful to a singlehander, because they help conserve your limited muscle power. I don't care for self tailers for racing, because the top of the winch often gets in your way when you have to strip the jibsheet off the winch in strong winds, and the self tailing feature just isn't useful very often on a fully crewed racing boat with fairly skilled crew.

On the other hand, self tailers are enormously helpful to cruisers who often sail shorthanded.

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Dave5041
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Response Posted - 12/08/2010 :  13:25:19  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Got self tailing lewmars for the jib sheets. Blush!<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
Showoff!

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redeye
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Response Posted - 12/08/2010 :  14:37:55  Show Profile
I slipped my hand up under one of the horn cleats in a storm and pulled my hand up and almost broke a finger. I don't like them there.

I've landed my fat a.. on a cam cleat with a riser and almost broke a bone.. I don't like them there either.

So far I've never injured myself on a clam cleat, nor has one grabbed the line. I guess I've got them in the right place....

IMHO and ahhhhh the memories....


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