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bigelowp
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Response Posted - 03/02/2011 : 20:03:50

Jerry, welcome! You will find we are not shy here and all support each other's efforts to fully enjoy their boat!

RE cleats vs. chocks: regrettably have been really busy at work so have not had a chance to to check with Catalina yet, but, all sail boats I have owned (Corinthian/Electra/Renegade/C-25) have had the center cleat on, what looks like a designed-in pad, @3ft from the bow(in case of C25 behind the anchor locker). For mooring, which is all I have ever done, the location is perfect, if not essential. I agree that it is a pain in the a for docking. I have on each boat replaced the chocks with larger ones better suited for handling mooring hawsers. maybe it's where I am located where many have moorings (Dave, not all have had the patience or good luck to survive the 9 year+ wait list at DBC!) but I kinda sorta assumed that the standard configuration is two chocks leading to one (or two on the Renegade) large, well secured center cleat. Some additional observations: as the mooring line goes across the anchor locker I can only check inside the locker while sailing or when I go to the club's dock. Second is that when our cove ha had heavy weather the highest number of break away boats have had bow cleats. My very uneducated assumption has been that the chocks have acted like a second stress point so the line has not been able to get in the position to slide off the cleat. Anyway, as usual this forum has made me think and better understand our lovely boats!.

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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 03/03/2011 : 07:59:21

I,too, have never seen a C-25 with chocks and a center cleat. It seems that the cleat would have to go where the air vent is located, assuming the hole for the skylight is part of the original deck mold when laying the fiberglass and gelcoat. Maybe the chocks and center cleat was an option that could be ordered if the buyer knew he/she would be on a mooring. I'd like to see a pic of one.

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lightnsail@aol.com
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Response Posted - 03/03/2011 : 20:23:31

Yeah, checked out the L Dock today and I'm there when I get the boat to SD. I promise to tap into your C-25 knowledge shamelessly, and will do my best to reciprocate. By the way, I really appreciate the offer to join you and look forward to meeting everyone, checking out your boats, and dragging you onto my boat for the occasional MBYC TNT race...

I can't wait to actually see my boat Saturday and will give a new owners review shortly thereafter.

Cheers,
Jerry

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Ryan L
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Response Posted - 03/03/2011 : 22:00:55

Right on Jerry, we look forward to meeting you. I used to race the occasional TNT on a friend's Santana 20, always a good time.

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by lightnsail@aol.com
 Yeah, checked out the L Dock today and I'm there when I get the boat to SD. I promise to tap into your C-25 knowledge shamelessly, and will do my best to reciprocate. By the way, I really appreciate the offer to join you and look forward to meeting everyone, checking out your boats, and dragging you onto my boat for the occasional MBYC TNT race...

I can't wait to actually see my boat Saturday and will give a new owners review shortly thereafter.

Cheers,
Jerry
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mmac
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Response Posted - 03/04/2011 : 08:49:43

Jerry,

Welcome to the wonderful world of Catalina 25s. L-21, next to Indiscipline, is currently empty. This forum/association is the best resource on the care, repair, and upgrade of your boat.

Some of the boats on L dock have center cleats, but they all appear to be after market add ons.

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RiverJames
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Response Posted - 03/04/2011 : 09:34:17

This is Indiscipline checking in. The slip next to me is wide open; however, there are a few requirements to being part of the L-dock Armada.

1) An allergy to your job is highly desired.
2) Working hard is fine, but only if it involves hours spent upside down in your bilge sanding, glueing, epoxying, painting or generally getting you in trouble with the wife.
3) You can't be afraid to "throw down" with those SD Bay punks west-side-story-style if it comes down to it. We are from the other side of the tracks and like it that way!
4) A general agreement that a beer is good.

See you down there
james

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Stinkpotter
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Response Posted - 03/04/2011 : 09:40:55

Indiscipline! Finally! Welcome, James! I (and more than a few other people) have sailed on your boat. (I won't tell you the whole story...) She is the probably most accomplished ocean racer/cruiser in the C-25 universe, by a large margin.

Tell us about your background coming to Indiscipline, and how you plan to uphold her reputation...

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JohnP
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Response Posted - 03/04/2011 : 11:21:34

James,

Welcome to the Forum, and to ownership of Indiscipline! When I bought my boat I learned that the previous owner had posted a few dozen times on the Forum, and I could learn something from that info.

But your boat is legendary around these parts, with lots of stories of modifications, repairs, and sailing adventures attached to her.

Have fun sailing your C-25!

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Ryan L
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Response Posted - 03/04/2011 : 19:40:17

You wouldn't recognize her. Neon low-rider lighting accents along the gunwales, huge bass speakers thumping rap pretty much all the time, a powered kegerator with taps above and below decks, disco ball on the spreader halyard, and a bidet (for some reason). She looks good. Unique, but good!

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Stinkpotter
 Indiscipline! Finally! Welcome, James! I (and more than a few other people) have sailed on your boat. (I won't tell you the whole story...) She is the probably most accomplished ocean racer/cruiser in the C-25 universe, by a large margin.

Tell us about your background coming to Indiscipline, and how you plan to uphold her reputation...

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Ryan L
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Response Posted - 03/04/2011 : 19:43:48

L-Dock armada comrade- I am ashamed at your requirement #4. Any L-docker worth their salt knows that a beer is not good...

...many beers are good.

Jerry will have to undergo standard LDA initiation I assume?

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by RiverJames
 This is Indiscipline checking in. The slip next to me is wide open; however, there are a few requirements to being part of the L-dock Armada.

1) An allergy to your job is highly desired.
2) Working hard is fine, but only if it involves hours spent upside down in your bilge sanding, glueing, epoxying, painting or generally getting you in trouble with the wife.
3) You can't be afraid to "throw down" with those SD Bay punks west-side-story-style if it comes down to it. We are from the other side of the tracks and like it that way!
4) A general agreement that a beer is good.

See you down there
james
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Stinkpotter
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Response Posted - 03/04/2011 : 21:35:56

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Ryan L
 You wouldn't recognize her. Neon low-rider lighting accents along the gunwales, huge bass speakers thumping rap pretty much all the time, a powered kegerator with taps above and below decks, disco ball on the spreader halyard, and a bidet (for some reason). She looks good. Unique, but good!<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">Unique?? Sounds like she's straight out of Bay Shore, Long Island. (...except for the bidet, and the sails.)

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RiverJames
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Response Posted - 03/05/2011 : 09:05:21

Don't think I don't feel the Jim B. pressure here..... I'm fairly new to sailing, which is why I bought a boat that I knew would be "sail-ready." I single-hand her quite a bit and am learning as I go.

I've put a lot of time into her.

So far:

Cetoled the exterior teak and gangplanks.
Replaced wooden aft instrument panel (GPD/depthsounder) with hinged unit in gangway. Turned out great.
Rewired boat, cleaned up electronics.
New stereo/speakers installed.
All new custom interior cushions/upholstery.
Installed new depthsounder with mineral oil bath in bilge. Very slick - and removeable as opposed to 5200 epoxy-job.
Fabricated new deck cushions.
New woodwork in galley, mounted microwave and propane stove.

Still many projects on the list.... needs new bottom paint soon so will likely fix dings in hull at that time. Fortunately, the boat did not need any real functional mods upon purchase. I suppose that's why I opted to pay a bit more up front compared to other recent buyers on L-dock.

Boat sails great and I'm sailing the crap out of her. Can't wait to schedule Catalina Island trip #1. Waiting for Maria T's owners to clear their schedules :)

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RiverJames
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Response Posted - 03/05/2011 : 09:13:48

Oh, and the saltwater bidet is a very fresh addition. I've ordered some glittered topside paint - fuscia to really give the boat some *pop*

LDA initiation is definitely in effect. Jerry will be chugging a six pack, spun around in circles for a few minutes, then hoisted up indiscipline's mast in his underwear (My new Windex needs mounting). If he makes it through this, we might consider giving him the honor of pumping out our boats at the pump station. That's a big IF.

Looking forward to hearing about the new boat. Always a potentially risky undertaking - boy's got cajones.

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lightnsail@aol.com
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Response Posted - 03/05/2011 : 17:13:06

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">...then hoisted up indiscipline's mast in his underwear <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">I could probably manage the rest but pretty sure you don't want to see that, and if you do, well that worries me! I'm thinking K dock would be cool, same as my last name, you guys are close but not too close...

Ok, so I'm on the train ride home after picking up keys, transfer of slip... Like every boat, I found some good stuff and some bad. When I flipped the power on the shower started spraying in the head which was cool. Ok, so on the good side boat is as straight as it looks, the engine is clean as a whistle and there is a crispy North Spinnaker that wasn't mentioned which is nice. On the bad side the main is crunchy and not in a good way, so a new main is on the very short list. The previous owners were very nice and the boat hasn't sailed in several years. They bought a condo on the water that came with the boat. They said they motored around the harbor a few time and that's it.

Paperwork sailed through and the boat's in my name, new CA tags, etc... Looking forward to getting her home in a week or so and getting to work taking stuff off that I don't need or want, cleaning the mast and boom, sanding and cetol for the exterior teak, new running rigging, etc...

I am sure I will need help sorting things through and I will make sure the cooler is well stocked if anyone feels the calling! Once again, aside from the up the mast in my undies bit, I'm down.

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lightnsail@aol.com
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Response Posted - 03/22/2011 : 17:58:49

My boat is "finally" in San Diego resting peacefully at L14 in Marina Village. The mast is horizontal and waiting to be stepped this weekend hopefully. After more time with the boat there are plenty of projects and the boat is filthy after transport. For the record the Anacapa yard in Oxnard was great. Gave me pointers on using the tabernackle setup and only charged $125 to haul the boat and place on the trailer. Driscolls in San Diego was $275 and also easy to work with. Hopefully run into a couple of you over the weekend and I'll bring beer!

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Ryan L
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Response Posted - 03/22/2011 : 20:27:13

Right on! Welcome to L-dock. I got the text today from captain of SeaFever (a few slips down). You and I are neighbors. Sorry for hogging your cleats, it was windy the other day. If they get in your way please feel free to untie the springs and just chuck them in the cockpit. In the meantime I'm sending you a pm with my contact info so you can be hooked up with the LDA.

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by lightnsail@aol.com
 My boat is "finally" in San Diego resting peacefully at L14 in Marina Village. The mast is horizontal and waiting to be stepped this weekend hopefully. After more time with the boat there are plenty of projects and the boat is filthy after transport. For the record the Anacapa yard in Oxnard was great. Gave me pointers on using the tabernackle setup and only charged $125 to haul the boat and place on the trailer. Driscolls in San Diego was $275 and also easy to work with. Hopefully run into a couple of you over the weekend and I'll bring beer!
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Ryan L
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Response Posted - 03/22/2011 : 20:29:54

I tried to send pm but for some reason the forum will not recognize my user name/email...

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by lightnsail@aol.com
 My boat is "finally" in San Diego resting peacefully at L14 in Marina Village. The mast is horizontal and waiting to be stepped this weekend hopefully. After more time with the boat there are plenty of projects and the boat is filthy after transport. For the record the Anacapa yard in Oxnard was great. Gave me pointers on using the tabernackle setup and only charged $125 to haul the boat and place on the trailer. Driscolls in San Diego was $275 and also easy to work with. Hopefully run into a couple of you over the weekend and I'll bring beer!
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Joe Diver
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Response Posted - 03/23/2011 : 12:00:21

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">only charged $125 to haul the boat and place on the trailer. Driscolls in San Diego was $275<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Nice price! I'm paying $250 for a haul, wash and inspection....

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lightnsail@aol.com
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Response Posted - 03/23/2011 : 20:47:10

Yeah Joe, I was pleasantly surprised when I got the bill up in Oxnard. The yard manager was a really good guy and helped me out a lot. When the truck was running late he suggested I take an hour and grab some lunch. When I got back the boat was in the slings and getting settled onto the trailer. I was expecting to get hit for cleaning the bottom and moving the boat for me. Anyway, real good people and would use them again in a second.

No problem on the spring lines Ryan. It was pretty windy when I rolled in Monday night and glad to be able to tie on both sides of the boat. Thanks for the wecome email.

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