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OJ
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Initially Posted - 03/02/2011 : 10:01:58

The bungy cord that is a loop with a small wooden peg at one end.

Similar to a ball-cord.

What's the correct name?

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delliottg
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Response Posted - 03/02/2011 : 10:23:12

The wooden peg is called a toggle, and the whole thing could be called a quirt although that's not exactly correct (more of an equestrian thing). I can look it up in my Ashley's this evening.

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Derek Crawford
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Response Posted - 03/02/2011 : 11:36:02

Sail-tie?

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GaryB
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Response Posted - 03/02/2011 : 11:53:29

I'm going with Derek's explanation.

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 03/02/2011 : 12:45:16

West Marine/Star Brite refers to them as [url="http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?productId=109350&catalogId=10001&langId=-1&storeId=11151&storeNum=10102&subdeptNum=10215&classNum=10216"]sail lashes[/url]

Personally, I ditched mine after getting slapped in the face with the toggle end one too many times after it slipped out of my hand while trying to tuck it in the loop.

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redeye
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Response Posted - 03/02/2011 : 13:05:03

In Ophthalmology they call them eye poker out ers..

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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 03/02/2011 : 14:20:45

If you need sail ties, go on ebay and buy a length of white 1" wide nylon web strap 15' long and cut your own. I did that for about $12. Cut them 6', 5' & 4'. Ties easily and is kind to the sail fabric. 20' will provide 4 ties.

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islander
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Response Posted - 03/02/2011 : 14:43:21

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Personally, I ditched mine after getting slapped in the face with the toggle end one too many times after it slipped out of my hand while trying to tuck it in the loop. <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
I can't stop laughing..

...Only cuz I can really relate to it.

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 03/02/2011 : 14:51:07

Instead of sail ties, which I can't even remember the last time I used them, I simply use the tail of my main sheet to spiral wrap the flaked main on the boom. Takes all of two seconds to wrap and it can be unwrapped while standing in the cockpit. To top it off, I've not yet lost a halyard to Davey Jones' locker. Can't say the same for my once used sail ties.

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jerlim
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Response Posted - 03/02/2011 : 16:12:36

When connected to a boom length piece of shock cord, WM calls it a CENTIPEDE...http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?productId=109184&catalogId=10001&langId=-1&storeId=11151&storeNum=10102&subdeptNum=10215&classNum=10216

Stays attached to the boom and the individual arms to the unit...I lengthened one or two to not be soo tight...works well

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TakeFive
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Response Posted - 03/02/2011 : 21:22:02

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by dmpilc
 If you need sail ties, go on ebay and buy a length of white 1" wide nylon web strap 15' long and cut your own. I did that for about $12. Cut them 6', 5' & 4'. Ties easily and is kind to the sail fabric. 20' will provide 4 ties.
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
Similarly, I use black 1" wide nylon web, adjustable length with plastic buckles to speed attaching/detaching. Cut it down and singe the ends. $1.88 ea in Wal-Mart's camping department.

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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 03/03/2011 : 07:37:50

I went for white webbing because I wasn't sure if blue or black would bleed onto the sail. $1.88 ea. sounds great. I've also got several black straps with plastic buckles from a boat cover that I could use.
The mainsheet idea sounds good, too.

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OLarryR
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Response Posted - 03/03/2011 : 10:10:53

The bungee cord w/toggle sail tie is not so hot especially when single handed sailing because it is not as easy as thowing a web strap over the flaked sail and gathering it up below the boom to tie with a slip knot or attach it with the buckle if it has a buckle. I had bought web straps w/buckles but I did not get around to using it right away. Then when I bought my new sails, they came with 4 web straps without buckles. I just became use to using them and tieing off with a slip knot.

Using the tail of the main sheet and spiral wrapping....never thought about that way of doing it. I guess you get used to doing it a certain way and stick with what works best for you.

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Voyager
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Response Posted - 03/03/2011 : 19:46:28

I've got a 1/4" 16 foot piece of line with a small bowline on the end to make a slipknot over the main part of the flaked sail, then I wrap and hitch, wrap and hitch and the sail is completely secure. I've thought of using velcro webbing straps but they are not cheap and they go overboard on a regular basis.

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Response Posted - 03/03/2011 : 19:53:00

I kept a couple of velcro "ties" to slap on as soon as the sail was dropped and quickly rolled onto the boom. Flaking and tying generaly happened later at the dock. I bought some elastic/velcro ties once, and hated them. (Sorry--I'm not sure what that has to do with the nautical term for a bungee with a toggle--I used to have half a dozen of those, but only called them sail ties--except when they hit me in the face--then I called them something else.)

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jerlim
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Response Posted - 03/05/2011 : 09:26:00

something not being mentioned...having lazyjacks makes all of the difference initially, especially when singlehanding...

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