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trptelf
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Initially Posted - 03/18/2011 : 19:45:57

Can anyone tell me what this is called? Its in between our key switch, battery selector switch, and outboard motor.

Bill and Erin
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KeziCat
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Response Posted - 03/18/2011 : 21:20:30

It looks like a remote starter relay of some sort. I can see it has the typical two large terminals and two smaller terminals. What's the year, make and model on your outboard?

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 03/18/2011 : 21:26:21

If it came off the outboard, it might be the rectifier/voltage regulator.

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Response Posted - 03/19/2011 : 04:39:11

Our motor is a 1987 Yachtwin with a remote start. The key switch is in the cockpit. All wiring between the battery switch, key switch, and motor pass through this unit. We have a problem with the starter engaging anytime the battery selector 1 is on, and we have to turn off battery 1 once the motor is started to stop the starter from turning over. This is with the key in the on position, not the start position. So we would like to know what this part is called so we can find a diagram and see where the wiring problem is.

So no one else has this on their boat? Ours in under the port cockpit seat. Our remote start is next to the bilge pump. Thanks for your input!

Edited by - trptelf on 03/19/2011 07:15:07

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Response Posted - 03/19/2011 : 08:41:36

I have an 88 YachtTwin but not this set up. I haven't seen anything like it before and I've been on this forum since 1994. It is most likely an after market add-on, in which case you won't find any wiring diagrams other than what the PO left behind. it might be best to get an electrician to hash out the problem.

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Response Posted - 03/19/2011 : 10:15:58

Thanks, I should maybe mention here that the PO had wheel steering set up, so maybe it has something to do with that. We apparently have an alternator on the motor (if we haven't blown it already), so I thought it might be a regulator. Thank you!

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Response Posted - 03/19/2011 : 13:22:04

I thought I recognized it from somewhere. I have an 84 YachtTwin with electric start, and I believe the item you have pictured is in the BRP-OMC catalogue. (link below) Look under "OB Accessories-Remote Starting Kit". The item has showed up on eBay a time ot two as well.

I considered converting mine to remote once and I may still, but after looking at what was all involved it seemed like it would be much easier to lean over the transom and hit the button. I did add a remote control box with shift and throttle cables. A significant improvement over the tiller arrangement and probably the best upgrade I have done to my girl.

http://epc.brp.com/Index.aspx?lang=E&s1=79c0a765-1a27-41aa-996d-c77327925f98

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Response Posted - 03/19/2011 : 13:38:35

Looks like a solenoid (electrically activated switch), and sounds like a stuck solenoid. It could be miswired, but that's how it will behave if it's stuck. You might ask a mechanic about giving it a shot of WD-40, or some other simple remedy... although it might be sealed so you can't do that. (Don't try it merely on my suggestion!)

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trptelf
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Response Posted - 03/19/2011 : 19:29:12

Thank you!!!!!!!!!!

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Response Posted - 03/20/2011 : 07:02:36

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Looks like a solenoid<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

I think Dave's right. I've got a Johnson 50 that I had to replace the solenoid on and it looked an awful lot like your picture.

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Response Posted - 04/22/2011 : 08:57:31

We replaced the solenoid, no change, the solenoid was fine. We replaced the key switch assuming a short, no change, key switch was fine. I did notice when replacing the key switch that the old switch did not have a wire coming from "A" of which I thought was fine because I assumed it was for an "accessory". BUT the New switch had an "I" instead of an "A" for "ignition circuit". Diagrams show magnetos (of which ours is with a hot M and a ground M) both with an A, or an I, or both.

Does anyone know if I need a wire from the "I" or "A" going to the ignition in the situation of having the hot and grounded M's? If so, where does the other end go on the picture in the first posting? Thanks for your thoughts. It has been months now of trying to figure this out unsuccessfully.

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