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NautiC25
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Response Posted - 04/08/2011 :  20:24:09  Show Profile
Personally, I would go sailing depending on how easy it is to manuever back into your slip and how much help you have getting back in.

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Joe Diver
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Response Posted - 04/08/2011 :  20:57:56  Show Profile
No help, I'm by myself. I'm way back in the slips and I'm facing away from the wind. I'd have to back out, sail a beam reach down the slips, directly into the wind to the marina entrance, then close hauled down the slough to the open lake. So, the 2 problems are backing out of the slip, and getting from my slip row to the marina entrance. Backing out wouldn't be too much of a problem, but getting to the entrance will be. There is no room to tack.

With my lack of experience, I really need a motor to get me out of the marina, and to get me back into my slip.

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Joe Diver
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Response Posted - 04/09/2011 :  11:49:41  Show Profile
Found West Marine this morning....feel silly for missing it...what a dangerous store that is! I left with my wallet 400 BU lighter. Heading out to the boat in a bit to install the new head and plumbing, depth sounder and a few other thingies I didn't realize I needed until I saw them.....

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Stinkpotter
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Response Posted - 04/09/2011 :  11:54:37  Show Profile
You know the sayings:

B.O.A.T. Break Out Another Thousand

Boat: Hole in the water, surrounded by fiberglass, into which $100 bills are thrown.

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Joe Diver
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Response Posted - 04/09/2011 :  20:09:33  Show Profile
Head install - FAIL.

Dang....tank is 3/4 full. I used to have a travel trailer...30' tongue pull....and one thing I DO know about septic systems is that when they're full or have something in them, DON'T open them up.

So, another thing that will have to wait until I'm able to move the boat. At least my marina has a pump, and I have everything I need.

I decided to give my existing head a shot, since the tank has waste and no telling how long it's been sitting or whats in there...should be all liquified by now, but I wanted to add some water and a dose of chemicals. My existing head does work...only problem is the pump needs a rebuild as it won't stay primed and every time you pull up a column of water comes up the shaft with it. So, need a big fluffy rag to flush the potty.

There is no way for me to get to any bolts under the mounting for the existing head. If they are there, I'm gonna have a heck of a time. I'll have to cut an access hole in the base of the head that I can get my hand and a wrench into.

Kinda painful today...spending some BU on stuff I can't use yet...

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 04/09/2011 :  20:54:27  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Joe Diver</i>
<br />There is no way for me to get to any bolts under the mounting for the existing head. If they are there, I'm gonna have a heck of a time. I'll have to cut an access hole in the base of the head that I can get my hand and a wrench into.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

My factory installed head is secured with lag screws.

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Joe Diver
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Response Posted - 04/09/2011 :  21:55:34  Show Profile
I hope mine are that way, but the threads don't look like lags....

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Arlington
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Response Posted - 04/09/2011 :  22:12:07  Show Profile
Sorry about the motor and head. I sure hope everything will soon be taking a turn for the better!

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Joe Diver
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Response Posted - 04/10/2011 :  08:21:16  Show Profile
Thanks...the head is no big deal, just "one more thing" to do before I can work on the system....the motor however...I'm being pushed to my limits on this one. I really don't want to be a dick about it because then I'll really get nowhere with the dude....

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GaryB
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Response Posted - 04/10/2011 :  09:09:19  Show Profile
Mine is lag bolted in also.

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Joe Diver
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Response Posted - 04/10/2011 :  11:31:50  Show Profile
While working on the boat yesterday I decided to fly a flag off the stern while in the slip:



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Arlington
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Response Posted - 04/10/2011 :  14:32:13  Show Profile
When we went to lunch today at the yacht club, I took my 150 genoa. we laid it out on the grass to see if it was a keeper, or if it was repairable. The 1st opinions from old salts were
1. a little detergent and scrubbing will clean this right up
2. you could get a new piece of canvas sewn in here or there.
3. you could sell it on craigs list for a $100
4. let us show how to fold it up right.
5. oops it has a tear here
6. look it is tearing there too
7. oh look it is rotted out here and there, well all over the area where it was exposed to the sun, it's like crumbling paper
8. this sail is not good as a tarp
9. not even good for use as a drop cloth
10. there is a dumpster over there,just throw it in the trash.

Looks like I'm getting a new sail. It really helps to explain to the admiral that it fell apart while we were folding it up, no doubt about it, just got to get a new one.

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Joe Diver
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Response Posted - 04/10/2011 :  17:23:10  Show Profile
Oh well....better that it fell apart on the lawn rather then out on the lake...if there are some good parts on it and you didn't throw it away, there's some folks down in Rockport that take in old sails and make stuff out of them:

http://sailagaintx.com/index.html

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GaryB
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Response Posted - 04/10/2011 :  17:40:52  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Arlington</i>
<br />When we went to lunch today at the yacht club, I took my 150 genoa. we laid it out on the grass to see if it was a keeper, or if it was repairable. The 1st opinions from old salts were
1. a little detergent and scrubbing will clean this right up
2. you could get a new piece of canvas sewn in here or there.
3. you could sell it on craigs list for a $100
4. let us show how to fold it up right.
5. oops it has a tear here
6. look it is tearing there too
7. oh look it is rotted out here and there, well all over the area where it was exposed to the sun, it's like crumbling paper
8. this sail is not good as a tarp
9. not even good for use as a drop cloth
10. there is a dumpster over there,just throw it in the trash.

Looks like I'm getting a new sail. It really helps to explain to the admiral that it fell apart while we were folding it up, no doubt about it, just got to get a new one.
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Do you have a roller furler?

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NautiC25
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Response Posted - 04/10/2011 :  17:58:31  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Joe Diver</i>
<br />While working on the boat yesterday I decided to fly a flag off the stern while in the slip:



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Nice!

I'm debating on building a nice flag halyard, or buying the ready made kit. I've had the C25 assoc. flag for a year now, and have yet to fly it.

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Joe Diver
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Response Posted - 04/10/2011 :  19:15:02  Show Profile
I plan to fy it on the starboard upper shroud, hoisted up to the spreader. Just how I'm going to do that though, is still in the planning stages. I'm also going to fly a US Yacht Ensign from the stern.

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Dave5041
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Response Posted - 04/10/2011 :  20:04:29  Show Profile
The yacht ensign is only legal in U.S. waters. Will that cause a problem in Texas?

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Joe Diver
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Response Posted - 04/10/2011 :  20:42:26  Show Profile
It could, but Texas Castle Laws allow me to protect myself and my property with lethal force if necessary...so I'd just shine my flashlight at them:



And if that doesn't work I'll let 'em see the rest of my flashlight:




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NautiC25
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Response Posted - 04/11/2011 :  05:21:25  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Joe Diver</i>
<br />I plan to fy it on the starboard upper shroud, hoisted up to the spreader. Just how I'm going to do that though, is still in the planning stages. I'm also going to fly a US Yacht Ensign from the stern.
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There's a DIY in the tech section. Or you could buy the kit from WM or Defender.

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NautiC25
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Response Posted - 04/11/2011 :  05:22:47  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Dave5041</i>
<br />The yacht ensign is only legal in U.S. waters. Will that cause a problem in Texas?
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Shouldn't you know that we Texans don't care what others think of us.

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Stinkpotter
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Response Posted - 04/11/2011 :  07:24:51  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by NautiC25</i>
<br />Shouldn't you know that we Texans don't care what others think of us. <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">Obviously.

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NautiC25
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Response Posted - 04/11/2011 :  08:52:34  Show Profile
Come on now. There's a reason why we fly our flag as high as the national flag. And we fly them both proudly.

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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 04/11/2011 :  09:21:16  Show Profile
I believe I am correct in saying that Texas is the only state in the union that is allowed to fly it's state flag level with the U.S. flag. It goes back to the pre-Civil War era before Texas was a state.
Their state flag was previously the (4th) flag of the Republic of Texas and was adopted as the state flag in 1845 when it became a state.

Edit: Correction, that is an urban legend according to Wikipedia. Like other state flags, it is flown below the Stars and Stripes if on the same pole, and level with and to the right of the national flag if on separate poles. However, many states use a slightly shorter pole for the state flag.

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NautiC25
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Response Posted - 04/11/2011 :  09:33:43  Show Profile
Correct. Texas had to fight for its independance from Mexico with little to no help from the US gov't. It became its own entity for 10 years, then voluntarily bargained its entry into the US "quid pro quo".



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NautiC25
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Response Posted - 04/11/2011 :  09:41:54  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by dmpilc</i>
<br />I believe I am correct in saying that Texas is the only state in the union that is allowed to fly it's state flag level with the U.S. flag. It goes back to the pre-Civil War era before Texas was a state.
Their state flag was previously the (4th) flag of the Republic of Texas and was adopted as the state flag in 1845 when it became a state.

Edit: Correction, that is an urban legend according to Wikipedia. Like other state flags, it is flown below the Stars and Stripes if on the same pole, and level with and to the right of the national flag if on separate poles. However, many states use a slightly shorter pole for the state flag.
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I think you were still correct. You can always fly both flags level. You can just never fly the national flag below the state flag. All other states are flown below.
Although it's allowed here, most people don't practice it. But secession back to a Republic has been joked about the way the countrie's going. lol

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