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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 04/11/2011 : 09:46:53

Back to the thread topic: Burgees are often flown on a halyard attached to the starboard spreader near the end. Attach a small eye strap and small block to the underside of the spreader. Add a thin line for the halyard. Cleats are available that attach to the shroud for tying off the halyard, or you could run it through a turnbuckle just under the center cross piece if you have an open barrel turnbuckle.

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Response Posted - 04/11/2011 : 18:50:08

Another Milestone Tonight:

I finally got my motor back!!!

Which resulted in me immediately leaving the marina for a test putt down the slough to the open lake and back:

Finally....felt good to get her out of the marina. I was a little nervous bringing her back in to the slip all by myself, but it's something I have to do and will be doing alot....I just idled down the slipway and coasted right in! Perfect....no bumps, no rubs. Next milestone: Put her under sail!

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Response Posted - 04/11/2011 : 19:11:09

Wow Scott, that motor sure looks nice! Thanks for the photo across the cabin too. I hadn't figured out where to put the handle for the sliding hatch. I was trying to put it too low & it interfered with latching the hasp. Yours look just right.

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Response Posted - 04/11/2011 : 19:18:22

Thanks Doug....for a one cylinder 5HP motor, it purred right along and moved the boat well enough.

Here's another pic, coming back to the marina, and you can see the handle better:

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Response Posted - 04/12/2011 : 05:44:38

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Joe Diver
 Head install - FAIL.

Dang....tank is 3/4 full. I used to have a travel trailer...30' tongue pull....and one thing I DO know about septic systems is that when they're full or have something in them, DON'T open them up.

So, another thing that will have to wait until I'm able to move the boat. At least my marina has a pump, and I have everything I need.

I decided to give my existing head a shot, since the tank has waste and no telling how long it's been sitting or whats in there...should be all liquified by now, but I wanted to add some water and a dose of chemicals. My existing head does work...only problem is the pump needs a rebuild as it won't stay primed and every time you pull up a column of water comes up the shaft with it. So, need a big fluffy rag to flush the potty.

There is no way for me to get to any bolts under the mounting for the existing head. If they are there, I'm gonna have a heck of a time. I'll have to cut an access hole in the base of the head that I can get my hand and a wrench into.

Kinda painful today...spending some BU on stuff I can't use yet...

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You can access the area beneath the head via the panel beneath the table.

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Response Posted - 04/12/2011 : 07:51:49

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by mrapkins
You can access the area beneath the head via the panel beneath the table.
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I don't remember seeing one but I'll look again. The bulkhead is solid down to the slot the table sits in, and it's solid glass from the floor up: the support post, under the bulkhead around to the port settee base is all solid.

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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 04/12/2011 : 08:00:58

I thought that looked like a 5 hp. My C-22 racing buddy has one just like it, and I've got a 4 hp Mariner on my C-22 that is probably the same motor, just a different carb. It should serve you well. Assuming it is a 20" long shaft, does the prop extend deep enough in the water? Be careful about that if you have anyone go forward while under power. Mine would not go deep enough on the C-25, so I ended up getting a 25" shaft motor.

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Response Posted - 04/12/2011 : 08:21:50

When I drop it to the lowest setting, the cavitation plate is about 8" under the surface making the center of the prop shaft about 1' or so under. I didn't take any pics out in the rougher water of the open lake yesterday, but in the 2 to 3' chop with whitecaps the motor never came close to coming out...same when running and rolling alongside the waves or coming back in running with the waves. You can see from this pic the prop wash is pretty deep:

I need to trim the motor. The PO had it set so it angles down, driving the bow down. I'm gonna bring it up a notch or two and level it out. It took some messing with the motor to get it just right directionally....the rudder sure is sensitive to that and unless it's just so, will want to pull to one side or the other. I finally got it just right, enough that I could go down, light a smoke, come back and she'd still be on course.

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Response Posted - 04/12/2011 : 14:24:10

Excellent, your motor mount must drop lower than mine.

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Response Posted - 04/12/2011 : 20:06:11

Went out to the boat tonight because I had a guy come to wash, buff and wax the deck and cockpit. I think he did an okay job...not as good as I was hoping though. He did get it really clean and white, probably got rid of 95% of the black marks and dirt, really made a dent in the chalk but not as much as I wanted to see. In any case he got it ready for me to apply a good coat or two of some quality wax...may get some Poly Glow as other have suggested as the gelcoat is ready for it.

So, since I was there...took her out for a quick motor to watch the sunset:

And took an obligatory picture of myself:

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Response Posted - 04/16/2011 : 20:08:16

Okay...last milestone reached today:

Eddy (eguevara) and I spent the afternoon sailing around the southern end of the lake. The first hour was brutal and there was no wind...at all...barely a breath at times...but finally a little later the winds did pick up and we were able to get some respectable speed (5.3 kts) on a couple of tacks. It was a great day, and even though I have work to do on her tomorrow, I'm going sailing again. We're supposed to have 15-25 mph winds tomorrow.

This morning I replaced both batteries and got a new charger. I don't know what people are thinking when they do things sometimes...I had 2 car starting batteries, each a different size. Both were bad...one could only produce 12.3 volts and the other 11.8. I got 2 new, matched marine deep cycle group 27's, total of 210 amp hours in the bank, and a really nice multi stage charger, with cables to each battery. So, the base of my DC system is fixed...I got my order from CD so I have all new LED cabin lights to install, plus replacements for my nav lights (and a bunch of other stuff).

I got my waste tank pumped on the way out...flushed a couple buckets of fresh water through the head and tank at the end of the pump out...so, now I can also work on replacing the head system. (Head, hoses)

Yeah, I can do all that tomorrow....or I can go sailing....hmmmm...wonder which one I'll do.....

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Response Posted - 04/16/2011 : 20:52:55

15-25 will be a whole new experience--you might think of it as "baptism in fire." If you're set up for reefing, I'd suggest setting the reef before you leave, and if you have a choice of hank-on jibs, pick the smallest one this time. You can work up as you get familiar with the boat. But winds in the high teens and twenties can be intimidating, especially in a new-to-you boat.

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Response Posted - 04/16/2011 : 21:42:00

I have only one reef point in the main and I can tie that in....I only have one headsail, it's a 110...all I've got to work with.

Another buddy of mine is supposed to be going with me tomorrow, and he's been sailing all his life (so he says)...so I have yet to be out alone under sail. I don't think I'd try 20+ winds by myself yet....I'd like to have an experienced sailor with me the first time I experience those winds and I'll be okay after that.

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Response Posted - 04/17/2011 : 21:38:42

Okay, didn't sail today...my buddy didn't make it and I think the winds were much stronger than forecast...the boats were bouncing around in the slips, very few were out on the lake, mainly power boats and the big J105 racers, only 2 of them.

So, I got alot more done. One of the big things was replacing all of my cabin lights with LED lights I got from CD...the oval shaped ones. They were easy to replace just took a little time to do each one right and I'm somewhat anal about that sort of thing.

Once it got dark, talk about light up the night! The pictures don't do them justice really, but here they are anyway. And the best part: All 5 together draw less amp hours than just one of the old ones.

They're not as harsh as the pictures make them out to be. They put out so much light I turned the flash off on the camera to better represent how good they are, so they do look alot better in person. Getting my DC system back up and proper was a big hurdle.

Another thing I did was replace my running lights. The old bulbs were meh, and the lenses were crazed, faded and had a meager "glow" when lit. I replaced the front whale eyes and the back clear one. The lens in the rear light, if you have the type in a chrome housing mounted on the stern port coming, is a bubble, meaning it is solid all under the housing. I didn't need to buy a new one, I could have just unscrewed the cover, rotated the bubble 180 degrees. The old crazed and faded portion would be under the housing and the protected portion that was under the housing, which was nice and clear, would now be the open port. So, if you have one of these and it's all nasty, pull off the cover and see if the other side of the bubble is good!

So, just a couple of big "to do's" left to get done: The head and the fresh water system. I'll probably tackle the head this week as it's the last thing I "need" to get done so I can overnight away from the marina. The fresh water system only feeds the sink, and I have a water jug for that, for now.

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Response Posted - 04/17/2011 : 22:25:26

Hi Scott:
My fresh water tank was under the starboard settee, when I took the inspection cover off, it was really gross, about a third full of gunk. Pumped out, put a cup of bleach down fill opening on deck, filled tank to max, let set over night, repeated, pumped out, rinse, pumped out rinse. I wanted to be able to drink whats in there, or at least be able to wash up with clean water.

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Response Posted - 04/18/2011 : 03:01:35

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Joe Diver
 The lens in the rear light, if you have the type in a chrome housing mounted on the stern port coming, is a bubble, meaning it is solid all under the housing. I didn't need to buy a new one, I could have just unscrewed the cover, rotated the bubble 180 degrees. The old crazed and faded portion would be under the housing and the protected portion that was under the housing, which was nice and clear, would now be the open port. So, if you have one of these and it's all nasty, pull off the cover and see if the other side of the bubble is good!<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Excellent tip, Scott! BTW, nice cushions, too.

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Response Posted - 04/18/2011 : 07:39:34

Thanks Don!

Doug, I haven't looked inside my FW tank yet, only at the outside and thumped it to verify it's empty. The hoses are nasty....the fill hose has some funny, sticky mold or something on the outside; can't tell if it's on the inside, and the hose leading to the sink is very discolored and funky looking. I could try the bleach flush, but I'm so picky about drinking water that I'll probably just replace both with new hoses and bleach rinse the tank.

I have the same sink faucet issue Eddy has....the spigot pops off, so I need to replace that. I like the idea of installing a pressure pump and accumulator tank along with a household faucet. Easy to do and available at any RV store. I will probably go that route.

I haven't tried to drain my sink yet. I have operated the seacock so it does work, and I have inspected the hoses (sink, icebox) that connect to it, but without the FW system fully functional, I've only washed my hands in it twice. I DON'T like how the sink won't fully drain, leaving a little water in the back corner....it's like I need to level up the sink or wipe it out each time.

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Response Posted - 04/18/2011 : 09:02:16

Sounds like you are making progress. Did you order any of the cabin lights with a red light for night vision?

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Response Posted - 04/18/2011 : 09:35:10

I wanted to use the tank for clean water, maybe drinking, so I took it out, bleached it, and bought all new clear hose from Lowes. The hose is $1.23/ft. for 1/2" I.D. and you only need about 20 feet total.

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Response Posted - 04/18/2011 : 09:39:04

Scott or Doug,

If you ever want me to come out with you guys just let me know and we'll put it together. You guys are probably about a 40 minute drive from where I'm at and I love sailing and I'm pretty familiar with the C-25. Of course if you want to sail on Hubbard the invitation is open as well, we can take my C-25 or go with my friend I race with on his C-27.

Shoot me an email at powers_peter AT yahoo DOT com and we can trade contact info.

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Response Posted - 04/18/2011 : 09:43:05

We should set up a Texas get-together. DFW area is far, but worth it for a planned meeting.

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Response Posted - 04/18/2011 : 10:12:44

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by NautiC25
 We should set up a Texas get-together. DFW area is far, but worth it for a planned meeting.
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That would be awesome. Maybe plan it around Dallas Race Week.

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Response Posted - 04/18/2011 : 11:14:35

No, I didn't get the red lights for night vision. I won't be under sail or motor at night very often, I'll usually be anchored by sunset and cooking dinner....and if I ever do have to move at night I'll just leave the cabin lights off.

The freshwater system is relatively inexpensive to repair as the hoses are very cheap....don't have to buy ones rated for the thru hulls or sanitation hoses....get them at an RV store for the ones that don't impart anything to the water. Camping World has everything I need: pump, accumulator tank, hoses....and I can get a household faucet at Home Depot. Probably cost me about $250 to replace everything but the tank and pressurize it. This is after the head...that's next since I already have everything I need.

A get together would be great....Eddy (eguevara) has a Cat 22 on Ray Hubbard (I think), and I believe I'm the only one on Eagle Mountain...but that would be cool to have a get together somewhere or just going sailing with each other.

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Response Posted - 04/18/2011 : 11:32:21

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Joe Diver
 No, I didn't get the red lights for night vision. I won't be under sail or motor at night very often, I'll usually be anchored by sunset and cooking dinner....and if I ever do have to move at night I'll just leave the cabin lights off.

The freshwater system is relatively inexpensive to repair as the hoses are very cheap....don't have to buy ones rated for the thru hulls or sanitation hoses....get them at an RV store for the ones that don't impart anything to the water. Camping World has everything I need: pump, accumulator tank, hoses....and I can get a household faucet at Home Depot. Probably cost me about $250 to replace everything but the tank and pressurize it. This is after the head...that's next since I already have everything I need.

A get together would be great....Eddy (eguevara) has a Cat 22 on Ray Hubbard (I think), and I believe I'm the only one on Eagle Mountain...but that would be cool to have a get together somewhere or just going sailing with each other.
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Yeah, I hate to see you miss a day because there's good wind and it's a new boat for you and you're lacking crew. Plus I'd love to check out a different lake.

I actually have forum members on either side of me in my slip. There are a BUNCH of C-25's in Lake Ray Hubbard.

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Response Posted - 04/18/2011 : 16:33:08

Any lake would be fine. Maybe more C25's in the lake the better.....

Well, either way, I'm in, just don't let the idea die.

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