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OJ
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Response Posted - 04/18/2011 : 16:42:51

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Joe Diver

<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">Jeez Joe! We do have children of tender age that visit this website . . .

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NautiC25
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Response Posted - 04/18/2011 : 16:48:35

I like the hat. Can I wear it when I visit?

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Response Posted - 04/18/2011 : 18:05:19

My Tilley has been all over the world with me. I do wash it on occasion but someone else would have to be pretty hard up to wear it!

I'm on the boat now, drifting along in a strong breeze. Was sailing earlier all by myself, but now I'm just drifting along watching the sunset. Got the Eagles on the radio, Hotel California. You know, these boats drift very well. I have the tiller tied up and I'm just blowing along, maintaining a very straight course.

Life is good.

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Response Posted - 04/18/2011 : 18:18:55

You see your boat every day. Can I have your job?

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Response Posted - 04/18/2011 : 18:46:46

I work from home full time, so I'm pretty free to get away a little early if things are slow. The marina is only 37 minutes away, so I can be here by 4:45 or so and be heading out by 5:00. Now that out days are getting longer and I fixed my lights, I'm good.

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Response Posted - 04/18/2011 : 20:22:54

Joe/Scott, your Tilley looks "out of the box" compared to mine, which might be older than you (well, you were just a kid), and has proven its floation skills many times, testing my MOB skills. Ya, it has straps... I should use them more.

To preserve it without imposing more wear, I now occasionally wash it in the dishwasher.

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Response Posted - 04/18/2011 : 21:35:12

I wash mine in the washing machine, just toss it in with a warm load...then shape it and let it dry....I've had that hat for 15 years now.

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Response Posted - 04/18/2011 : 22:15:23

<center>Adventures in Sailing!</center>

Tonight I accomplished a major goal: I sailed my boat all by myself!

The winds were very fresh with the occasional strong puff, but nothing I couldn't handle. I decided to sail on the main alone, since the winds were strong and I wanted to get a feel for it before I try to manage two sails. She moves pretty well under just the main. I'm not gonna break any speed records, but it gave me a chance to get a feel for controlling the sail and shaping it properly.

My first track was a beam reach to broad reach, port tack. I sat on the windward side with my left hand on the tiller and my right on the mainsheet. I experimented with trimming and easing, to see the effect on the telltales, heel and headway. I got a really good feel for it, anticipating the strong puffs and easing the sheet to control the heel, trimming it back when the puff had passed.

I stayed on this tack for about 45 minutes, sailing across the southern end of the lake, making probably 5 knots or more. When it came time to turn and head back, I had a small area to port to turn onto the wind, or a lot of room to starboard, but it would be a gybe. I figured, what the hell, I know how to do a gybe, why not. I trimmed in the main as I started the turn, by the time it luff'd the boom was pulled tight. I heard and felt it pop over as I turned through the wind and started letting it out as I turned back the way I came, now on starboard tack and close hauled. Textbook gybe!

I sailed all the way back across the lake on this tack, splashing through the waves and making great headway. This time, to handle the puffs, instead of playing the mainsheet I turned a bit more into the wind each time. Real trick to that one....turn too much and the sail luffs, makes a gawd awful noise and I lose my headway. Don't turn enough and she heels way over and tries to turn into the wind on her own. Real balancing act but I got pretty good at it.

I made a little cove out of the wind right at sunset, dropped the main and tidied everything up, then relaxed and enjoyed the sunset:

Then I chilled out for a while, enjoying the night air and stars before I motored back to the marina. It was a great evening. I should have brought something for my evening visitors:

Edited by - Joe Diver on 04/18/2011 22:16:41

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Response Posted - 04/19/2011 : 05:32:15

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Joe Diver
 Tonight I accomplished a major goal: I sailed my boat all by myself!<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Excellent!

Although it's somewhat of a blur for me now, that first time I ventured out alone, which unfortunately happened a few years into my sailing career, was a life changing event as it opened up a whole new world for me. Some 15 years later, I'm now primarily a singlehanded sailor. Good for you that you accomplished that goal early. I wish I had had the courage to do the same.

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Response Posted - 04/19/2011 : 07:38:53

Thanks again Don....when I bought my boat, one of the things I wanted (and got lucky) was for her to be rigged for singlehanding. All my lines are aft to the cockpit, except the boom vang. I don't have one! The PO said he never had one on the boat and never needed it....well, I want one. She sails just fine without it of course, but it's another tool to shape the sail. I'm either going to just order the one from CD or build my own...not a big deal just two fiddle blocks, one with a Beckett and some line. The cost of those silly fiddles with a Beckett though, it's right at the same price as the CD one. Although, in order to run it back to the cockpit too, I'll just need a couple of fiddles, a redirector and a cam cleat....I think....I need to see some boom vang rigs led to the cockpit.

Anyone have the boom vang led aft and can post some pics?

Singlehanding was my goal with this boat. My boat is my escape vessel....I want to leave the marina for a sail and not need to depend on "crew" to go sailing.

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Response Posted - 04/19/2011 : 09:05:09

Running your boom vang back to the cockpit is an easy task. You'll need a fiddle block with swivel and a single block with swivel and becket, and sufficient 5/16" line to run to an organizer/turning block by the handrail and back to the cockpit to a cam cleat with line keeper.
If you have a mast plate in addition to the tang on your mast, you could get by with 2 single swivel blocks, one on the boom and one at the mast plate. With this set-up, you would start your line at the mast tang tied off with a bowline or use a snap shackle, run it up to the boom, then down to the mast plate, then over to the organizer and back to the cockpit. Easy.

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Response Posted - 04/19/2011 : 09:15:25

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Joe Diver
 Anyone have the boom vang led aft and can post some pics?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

I did lead my vang to the cockpit, but after having some issues, I used a tip I learned on the forum and flipped my vang so the tail is on the boom side. Easy peasy, lemon squeezy.

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Response Posted - 04/19/2011 : 09:19:13

That works for me too. In my vang set-up, I have the fidle block with cam cleat on the boom and the single block with becket at the base of the mast. The line tail hangs down and rests on the companionway hatch.

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Response Posted - 04/19/2011 : 09:38:21

After upgrading my mainsheet blocks, my original 3:1 mainsheet was then put to use as my boom vang. After flipping it, I increased the purchase to 6:1 as I employ vang sheeting with the additional purchase being most helpful. I have just enough tail so it hangs down about a foot when the vang is relaxed. A stopper knot on the tail end allows a nice grip too.

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Response Posted - 04/19/2011 : 10:12:54

Although I had been planing to run the lines back with a turning block and cam cleat, I do like the idea of flipping it and having the Beckett on the boom. Is the Beckett easy to manipulate?

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Response Posted - 04/19/2011 : 10:28:20

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Joe Diver
 Although I had been planing to run the lines back with a turning block and cam cleat, I do like the idea of flipping it and having the Beckett on the boom. Is the Beckett easy to manipulate?
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Scott, by becket I'm assuming you meant the cam cleat, and yes, most are easily adjustable to get the proper angle. I had to adjust mine when I used it for the vang.

BTW, nice going on increasing the size of your name in your signature. Now people will be more likely to call you SCOTT rather than Joe Dirt, uh, I mean Diver!

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Response Posted - 04/19/2011 : 12:51:38

OK, I finally read this marathon and it would seem we can talk about anything so here goes. Scott, you sail in Texas therefore you need air conditioning. I have put them in two C 25s, and you will discover the real way to clean the dumpster too. First is get a couple of dock boxes and get that crap out of the dumpster! A couple of fenders up on the shelf are OK. I buy Suncrest dock boxes at Lowes and Target. Next, remove the bulkhead between the quarterberth and the dumpster, you will cut a couple of pieces of ply to replace it. Next pick up a 6k btu AC unit with remote. Install with new sections of ply and proceed to the dumpster hatch. carry two high velocity fans, point one down into the dumpster to force air in, point the other out of the dumpster to evacuate the hot air from the AC, (this will also evaporate ALL condensate). I could post a bunch of photos but it would be easier if you simply went to my photo pages for my '82 and my '89 to see what I did with both boats.

http://gallery.mac.com/fhopper#gallery

The fan shot is hard to find, so I will include it here. I have far more photos than are posted so if you want more detail on things I probably have it, just ask.

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Response Posted - 04/19/2011 : 21:29:07

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by PCP777
 Scott or Doug,

If you ever want me to come out with you guys just let me know and we'll put it together. You guys are probably about a 40 minute drive from where I'm at and I love sailing and I'm pretty familiar with the C-25. Of course if you want to sail on Hubbard the invitation is open as well, we can take my C-25 or go with my friend I race with on his C-27.

Shoot me an email at powers_peter AT yahoo DOT com and we can trade contact info.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Hey Scott:
Are you up for this, any time on Friday to go see our shipmate at Ray Hubbard?

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Response Posted - 04/19/2011 : 21:45:14

I'm forever messing with signatures until I get it just right. I'll still mess with this one to as I don't quite have it right yet.

Thanks for the AC info Frank...I'm sure I'll be begging for it during the dog days.

I can't this weekend Doug...I teach scuba in my spare time (at least for now) and we're taking students out to Clear Springs in Terrell this weekend. I have to be there both days and help the OW Instructors Saturday with a couple of specialties, and Sunday we've got some Rescue Diver students coming out so I have to show the Instructors how to run the rescue scenarios.

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Response Posted - 04/20/2011 : 06:20:32

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by pastmember
 OK, I finally read this marathon and it would seem we can talk about anything so here goes. Scott, you sail in Texas therefore you need air conditioning. I have put them in two C 25s, and you will discover the real way to clean the dumpster too. First is get a couple of dock boxes and get that crap out of the dumpster! A couple of fenders up on the shelf are OK. I buy Suncrest dock boxes at Lowes and Target. Next, remove the bulkhead between the quarterberth and the dumpster, you will cut a couple of pieces of ply to replace it. Next pick up a 6k btu AC unit with remote. Install with new sections of ply and proceed to the dumpster hatch. carry two high velocity fans, point one down into the dumpster to force air in, point the other out of the dumpster to evacuate the hot air from the AC, (this will also evaporate ALL condensate). I could post a bunch of photos but it would be easier if you simply went to my photo pages for my '82 and my '89 to see what I did with both boats.

http://gallery.mac.com/fhopper#gallery

The fan shot is hard to find, so I will include it here. I have far more photos than are posted so if you want more detail on things I probably have it, just ask.

<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

This is pretty awesome, but if you want AC without installing it you'll find that a small 6500 unit will fit through your forward hatch. In summer season, I store it in the V Berth, when I need AC in the slip, I simply pass it through the forward hatch and set it on the fordeck, close enough where the hatch lid will set on the front of the AC. Put a block or something under the front bottom of the AC so that the condensation runs out of the back of the unit. Cover the AC unit and hatch with a couple beach towels and you're done. Also a good idea to have a couple fans to help push the cold air from the V berth to the rest of the boat. We call this the red neck yacht club cooling system.

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Response Posted - 04/20/2011 : 06:20:54

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Joe Diver
 I'm forever messing with signatures until I get it just right...
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">I messed with mine to get the click-enlarge function for the pix... Kind of a PITA, but the result was fun. (Now I'm not sure I could explain how to do it.)

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Response Posted - 04/20/2011 : 06:34:09

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Arlington
 <blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by PCP777
 Scott or Doug,

If you ever want me to come out with you guys just let me know and we'll put it together. You guys are probably about a 40 minute drive from where I'm at and I love sailing and I'm pretty familiar with the C-25. Of course if you want to sail on Hubbard the invitation is open as well, we can take my C-25 or go with my friend I race with on his C-27.

Shoot me an email at powers_peter AT yahoo DOT com and we can trade contact info.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Hey Scott:
Are you up for this, any time on Friday to go see our shipmate at Ray Hubbard?

<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

You guys are more than welcome on any given weekend or Wednesdays after work. This weekend is out probably for all of us with easter and all but let's set something up. I can also probably get Darren (user name djdurrett) to join us.

I've posted this before but this is the C-27 Joint Venture I sail on all the time and my boat out on a light day. I'm actually the helmsman for Joint Venture on Wednesdays.

You can see a bit of my non standard rig in this video including my vang, which leads aft and is not set. Also note my cunningham which is also not set, very nice tool to have when the wind gets a bit heavy. This was one of my first single hand sails so not everything is in order.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtVL0NXBKDo

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Response Posted - 04/20/2011 : 10:07:47

I see your vang is turned upside down s the cam is on the top fiddle. is it awkward trying to manipulate the vang, mainsheet and tiller? How do you manage that?

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Response Posted - 04/20/2011 : 14:18:30

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Joe Diver
 I see your vang is turned upside down s the cam is on the top fiddle. is it awkward trying to manipulate the vang, mainsheet and tiller? How do you manage that?
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The vang actually runs aft and goes into a jam cleat so it is run back to the cockpit. To answer your question I prioritize, the vang is probably one of the last things I set when single handing, which I rarely do. (I'm one of those blessed guys who's wife loves to sail)

If I am by myself I can trim the main from my seat at the tiller, then use the tiller tamer to hold a course while I do the fine tuning things.

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Response Posted - 04/20/2011 : 14:36:05

Soo once you get everything else trimmed out, trim the vang....gotcha...

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