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piseas
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Initially Posted - 08/09/2011 :  14:40:24  Show Profile  Visit piseas's Homepage
This last weekend while out sailing, one of my crew tightened the jib halyard using the winch to smooth out the sail. Fine, except when it came time to furl the sail. It was extremely difficult to do. When we got back to the slip I loosed the halyard slightly and the furler worked normally. I now marked the line on where to stop.
I mention this for 2 reasons. I have tightened the halyard before w/o any problem. I guess it was overtightened. So just bringing that to your attention. Secondly, I didn't know you could over tighten the jib halyard. Anyone else experience this.
Steve A
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islander
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Response Posted - 08/09/2011 :  17:03:57  Show Profile
Steve, My furlex manual warns against over tightening and to only tighten up enough to get any wrinkles out of the luff. I would guess you put too much strain on the swivel barrel or the drum causing it to bind up. I would only hand tighten, No winch handles.
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piseas
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Response Posted - 08/10/2011 :  14:18:01  Show Profile  Visit piseas's Homepage
Scott, I found manual for my snapfurl on-line but didn't find anything about over tightening, that I saw. I never tighten jib halyard using winch w/ handle but I had an over zealous crew member! Usually I never have to adjust. That day it did need tightening.
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GaryB
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Response Posted - 08/10/2011 :  18:34:23  Show Profile
My Harken says to refrain from over-tightning. The few times I've gotten to use it this year I did tighten it pretty tight one time and it did seem harder to furl until I released the tension.
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Stinkpotter
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Response Posted - 08/10/2011 :  21:50:52  Show Profile
Apples, oranges, bananas, blueberries... Steve--are you talking about a CDI, Harken, Schaefer, Furlex, Hood,... Probably CDI (a factory option on the C-250). Ball bearing option included?

I tightened my Hood with the winch--the jib halyard pulled the swivel up, which pulled the luff tight in the foil, which lifted the drum, which put tension on the shackle that positioned the drum over the stem fitting and made it work better... but a CDI is a different story.
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dlucier
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Response Posted - 08/11/2011 :  05:30:04  Show Profile
My Harken furler has a sweet spot when it comes to halyard tension. A little too loose and I get halyard wrap. A little too tight and it binds. When it's just right, it spins like a top.

With the CDI's built in halyard, I doubt a winch was used to tighten it.
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willy
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Response Posted - 08/11/2011 :  05:49:50  Show Profile
Somewhere along the line I was told that if you make the tension on your jib halyard greater than the tension on your forestay, you will have furling difficulty. The theory seems to prove itself every year with one person or another on our pier!
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piseas
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Response Posted - 08/11/2011 :  13:44:14  Show Profile  Visit piseas's Homepage
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Stinkpotter</i>
<br />Apples, oranges, bananas, blueberries... Steve--are you talking about a CDI, Harken, Schaefer, Furlex, Hood,...
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David, Ya I was gonna put Make, Model, etc in the title but kinda wanted to see if anyone else had similar situation regardless. Mine is Schaefer SnapFurl. I believe its the CF500 that was installed by Catalina or PO.
Steve A
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frog0911
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Response Posted - 08/11/2011 :  18:33:18  Show Profile
I checked my snapfurl manual and the operating instructions on page 6 states " it is recommended to ease the jib halyard before furling to relieve the sail of undue loads while furled." I new I had read it somewhere, just took awhile to find. It's that age thing.
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piseas
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Response Posted - 08/12/2011 :  18:38:27  Show Profile  Visit piseas's Homepage
Jerry, thanks. I now see that. Just above trailering. Learn something new every day. I am sailing both tomorrow and Sunday. I will take that new knowledge out with me. Funny, it did sail better with a tighter halyard. You can be sure I will not forget tomorrrow. Weather looks great ahead with 10-12 knots winds. Just my cup of tea.
Steve A
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frog0911
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Response Posted - 08/13/2011 :  18:32:18  Show Profile
I am sure you can guess what forced me to dig deeper into the manual and find that little tidbit.
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