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Rick Evans
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Initially Posted - 12/22/2002 :  09:46:43  Show Profile
What I know about electricity is scary. Its a miracle I haven't killed myself yet. However, I want to take a crack at installing a stereo on my 250 WK. Anybody have any guidance as to (1) where is the best place for the exterior speakers to go; (2) where's the best place for the actual unit and, most importantly (3) how in the heck do I wire it up? Thanks.

Rick Evans
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Buzz Maring
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Response Posted - 12/22/2002 :  11:17:46  Show Profile
Hi Rick,

Bren Peterson just completed a stereo installation on his 250 ... if he doesn't see your post, maybe you could email him at bren737@msn.com and find out how he did it.

Are you there Bren?

Good luck, and happy holidays!

Buzz Maring, C-25 SK/SR #68, "Freya"

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Arlyn Stewart
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Response Posted - 12/22/2002 :  12:51:00  Show Profile  Visit Arlyn Stewart's Homepage
Rick,

Also of help... view

http://www.cox-internet.com/arlynstewart/stereo.html

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Arlyn C-250 W/B #224
R&R N/E Texas and Great Lakes

[url="http://www.cox-internet.com/arlynstewart/"]Arlyn's C250 Mods n Cruisin Stories[/url]

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zebra50
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Response Posted - 12/22/2002 :  13:22:30  Show Profile
Rick

Arlyn is correct. I installed mine almost the same as shown in the tech tips-excluding the outside speakers. Works great. bought it at West Marine.


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Rick Evans
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Response Posted - 12/24/2002 :  18:21:13  Show Profile
Thanks for your input, guys. I'm going to give it a shot. If you hear of a 250 melting down due to miswiring or something like that, say a small prayer. It'll be me. I can do welding, plumbing, carpentry and lots of other stuff but electricity is like black magic to me.

Rick Evans



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Ben - FL
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Response Posted - 12/25/2002 :  12:13:11  Show Profile  Visit Ben - FL's Homepage
Ahoy Rick,

My stereo is mounted on the aft side of the galley in a waterproof shell. It has a lid with rubber o-ring. And I've got four Bose Wave speakers. Two are mounted left and right under the dinette. And two are mounted in the cockpit. The wire are routed out of the aft battery compartment under the cockpit. They are covered by some mouldings. The cabin speaker wires are routed through the seatees.

I'll take some pictures if I have a chance today. It's very windy. We'll be leaving for Christmas dinner with my folks soon. But Me and my son might have a chance to go out under a double reef!



Safe voyages,
Ben, FL s/v Chick-a-pea C250wk

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bren737
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Response Posted - 12/26/2002 :  23:26:47  Show Profile
Buzz: Hi! I'm here; little swamped by the holidays these past several days. Hope you had a very Merry Christmas!

Rick: I installed two 6" diameter speakers under the V-berth, as someone else has done and posted in the 'tech-tips' section of the forum. The radio/CD itself took me awhile to decide on. I wanted it to be readily accessible from the hatch area, so I didn't want to install it anywhere forward but still wanted it to be fairly protected from the elements when the hatch was opened.

I finally decided to build a box (wood, stained to match the rest of the interior wood) and install it in the box. I then attached the box to the stainless steel "conduit" which runs from under the galley area up to the electrical panel via a couple of rail-mount clamps. The box is mounted to the right side of the conduit (left side of the box) and is free to swing around the conduit so that it can be swung out away from the cabin wall about 45 degrees or can be pushed back flush against the wall to be out of the way. In the same box, below the radio, I installed two "cigarette lighter" type power receptacles to plug in cell phone, spot light, etc. I also found a voltmeter which plugs into that type of receptacle which I use to monitor the battery.

I'll be out at the lake tomorrow and will try (no promises) to take a picture or two and either email them to you or post them here. You're more than welcome to check it out in person it you catch me out at Canyon or you might be able to take a peek through the side ports of my boat. She's parked on her trailer up in the dry-slip area at CLM behind the mobile homes.

If I can be of any help, please let me know!



Bren Peterson
C250WB, #642, "Ruah"
San Antonio, TX

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Douglas
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Response Posted - 12/28/2002 :  13:20:21  Show Profile  Visit Douglas's Homepage
Arlyn!!!! Thats not a propane canister I see right below an electrical component is it ??? Those portable bottles are famous for leaking at the valve.

Doug&Ruth
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Tacoma Wa.

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Arlyn Stewart
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Response Posted - 12/28/2002 :  18:26:21  Show Profile  Visit Arlyn Stewart's Homepage
Doug,

Your response raises an early production issue with the c250. They were produced with a rinky dink fuel assembly located deep within the galley cabinet that accepted some tin can fuel cannisters that certainly did leak. The cans rusted, had to be mail ordered and were a real problem. Later model boats had a dedicated tank within the starboard cockpit locker that claimed a large portion of that locker.

The coleman cannister is a between these two systems solution. It lives in the fuel locker (triple vented overboard) and is fetched to the galley cabinet only while the stove is in use. If the cannister seal or valve assembly leaked... the cannister would empty itself while in the fuel locker. It hooks to the stove pig tail via a quick coupler so the valve remains on the cannister.

So, its about the equivelent of having a solenoid switched gas line that is only open during use of the stove. Stereo power is controled at the switch panel so that there is only power within the cabinet while operating the stereo.

Thanks for your point... I will remind myself not to run the stereo and stove at the same time.





<img src="http://www.cox-internet.com/arlynstewart/images/helming.jpg" border=0>
Arlyn C-250 W/B #224
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[url="http://www.cox-internet.com/arlynstewart/"]Arlyn's C250 Mods n Cruisin Stories[/url]

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Douglas
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Response Posted - 12/28/2002 :  19:11:38  Show Profile  Visit Douglas's Homepage
Arlyn: I am just having some fum with you. You have contributed so much to this board I could not resist. Just in case no one else has said anything. THANKS and keep up the great job.

Doug&Ruth
Triska (Alberg 29)
Tacoma Wa.

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bren737
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Response Posted - 12/28/2002 :  23:59:57  Show Profile
Rick,

Here's the promised pics of my installation. If you're interested, let me know and we'll work out a time to meet at CLM for you to check it out in person and see the actual wiring hook-up.

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Bren Peterson
C250WB, #642, "Ruah"
San Antonio, TX

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Rick Evans
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Response Posted - 01/01/2003 :  10:47:21  Show Profile
Bren,
You're not only an electrician, but obviously pretty handy with a saw. That box looks like a fine piece of woodwork. Where do you keep Ruah? I thought the only other 250 was the one owned by Steve Steakly. Are you at Papa Docs, too?

Rick Evans



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bren737
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Response Posted - 01/01/2003 :  12:11:31  Show Profile
Rick,

Yes, I'm at Canyon Lake Marina. I keep her dry-slipped on her trailer right now. She's parked behind the mobile homes there behind Papa Doc's. Again, if you want to check out the installation in person, just let me know. I'll be happy to show it to you. You can drop me an email at bren737@msn.com or give me a call at 210-823-0491.



Bren Peterson
C250WB, #642, "Ruah"
San Antonio, TX

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ssteakley
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Response Posted - 01/23/2003 :  23:24:24  Show Profile
Ok, this is kind of late but I have been occupied, Bren has a great solution. I did not install under the sink because my CD player extended to far and would have been a problem in the storage area. I used a plastic cutting board to create a plateform to hang the Stereo enclosure available at West Marine. I wanted to install it near the electrical panel so the wiring would be simple. I think the pictures will tell the story:
Steve Steakley

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