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delliottg
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Initially Posted - 12/13/2011 : 23:15:44

So, I'm getting ready to send our 110% jib into Sailcare. It's not the original sail, and doesn't have our sail number on it. Does the stock jib come with sail numbers on it? I'm thinking about having them put numbers on for me, but wanted to know if this was standard?

Do you have your sail number on your jib(s)?

David
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Steve Milby
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Response Posted - 12/14/2011 : 05:53:03

If you race, you need to have numbers on one sail, usually the main sail. Most people have 2 or more jibs, but only one main sail, so, if the numbers are on the mainsail, they will be displayed regardless of which jib is flying. The numbers help the race committee to quickly identify each boat as it crosses the finish line. The numbers also help a competitor identify a boat that has fouled it on the race course. The last time I checked, sail numbers were required on race boats by the racing rules. I have seen numbers on jibs, but not often. I don't know of any club or class that requires them.

If you don't race, numbers aren't required at all.

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John Russell
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Response Posted - 12/14/2011 : 07:36:03

Numbers on the headsail are the exception to the rule. I've seen it, but only very rarely.

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PCP777
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Response Posted - 12/14/2011 : 08:53:27

I have numbers on my head sail, they represent my PHRF and were there when I bought the boat.

They used to match, and I thought it looked pretty sharp..

Even on my spin....

But when I bought my new main I decided to go with hull number so now it looks a bit off, but the next thing I replace will be my headsail and then it will match again. In retrospect, probably should have stayed with the PHRF.

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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 12/14/2011 : 14:48:10

Very few in our club have numbers on the headsails. Unless it is required in your area, it's a safety-at-sea issue, or you have an extremely expensive sail you want to tag with your hull number for anti-theft purposes, don't waste money on the numbers. Makes it harder to resell later.
BTW, Peter, nice looking boat AND sailing venue.

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delliottg
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Response Posted - 12/14/2011 : 19:23:48

Well, you guys talked me out of it. I sent Sailcare a note to not put the numbers on the sail. If I ever want to, Fisheries Supply sells kits to put the numbers on, but now I'm not seeing the point.

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Derek Crawford
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Response Posted - 12/15/2011 : 09:56:08

If you race it's a great help to the RC to have numbers on the jib & main. The numbers on the main on a boat approaching the finish line on port tack cannot be seen.

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PCP777
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Response Posted - 12/15/2011 : 14:23:06

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by dmpilc
 Very few in our club have numbers on the headsails. Unless it is required in your area, it's a safety-at-sea issue, or you have an extremely expensive sail you want to tag with your hull number for anti-theft purposes, don't waste money on the numbers. Makes it harder to resell later.
BTW, Peter, nice looking boat AND sailing venue.
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Thank you.

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 12/16/2011 : 08:46:18

Generally speaking if your headsail is more than 135% (estimate on my part) you will have numbers. This is because the overlapping sail can block the numbers on the mainsail. However this is a racing thing, not a maritime mandate.
If you do not race then you aren't required to have any sail numbers. (Unless some local lake requires them) It can make it easier for the USCG or other rescue to identify your boat (that could be bad too

. It is also nice if you have friends meeting you on the water so they can spot you in a crowd, but how often does that happen?

I have never had a problem reselling any sails with numbers, the old stitched on numbers could possibly be problematic, but I'm pretty sure no one does that anymore. They can be removed, cleaned up (glue residue) and renumbered without too much pain.

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John Russell
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Response Posted - 12/17/2011 : 13:50:02

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Champipple
I have never had a problem reselling any sails with numbers, the old stitched on numbers could possibly be problematic, but I'm pretty sure no one does that anymore. They can be removed, cleaned up (glue residue) and renumbered without too much pain.
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">Sailcare does. In fact they require stitching them on if you want to keep them after they're processed.

Edited by - John Russell on 12/17/2011 13:51:12

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