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Initially Posted - 01/18/2012 : 18:46:49

Well after a year-long adventure with no buyer for the boat and hurricane damage and repair, I have decided the sailing gods are sending me a message and saying "keep your boat and go sail on the big, fresh-water, lake surrounded by beautiful mountains. (Winnipesaukee)

So that is what I'm going to do and I am thrilled beyond belief.

I'm having the boat transported up to Wolfeboro, NH and will be mooring it there. I've never moored my boat before so I'm not sure if it's harder or easier than docking in a slip. Also not sure how to keep the battery charged out there. I'm used to having shore power.

It's going to be a busy spring getting her back in shape after being fairly neglected and stored for the past several months. Lots of brightwork work and CLEANING. The great thing is that structurally she is sound, that ole swing keel is set better than ever before AND I get to enjoy all the upgrades I've done over the years and not be grumpy that nobody will buy my boat for the thousands of dollars I think she's worth. (heh, heh)

So I'll probably be hanging on the forum a lot more again. Thanks to all you guys who have followed my journey and offered advice.

"Mysterious" 1983 C25 SR/SK #3655
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Response Posted - 01/18/2012 : 18:54:43

Congrats, not many people can hear the "message" and fewer people respond to it; you are rare and wise.

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Response Posted - 01/18/2012 : 19:28:40

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by CateP
 . . . to Wolfeboro, NH and will be mooring it there. I've never moored my boat before so I'm not sure if it's harder or easier than docking . . .
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">We used to be transported to our mooring via the marina shuttle - until it was struck from the state budget! We now use a WB dinghy and 2.5 HP motor. We store it onshore chained to a cable - which means we mount the outboard and launch each time we go the lake. Stepping off the dinghy and onto the swim ladder requires good balance - especially if you are carrying say, a tote bag or cooler. We usually tow the dinghy behind us while sailing (even though we're on an inland lake) because it is such a pain to tie it to the mooring ball. Reverse the whole process at the end of the day . . . it's a lot of additional physical labor.

Does your outboard have an alternator? Many here use a solar panel to keep their battery charged.

Good luck and enjoy your new home!!!

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Response Posted - 01/18/2012 : 20:02:48

Congratulations, Cate. I'm kind of local to you, so I've been following your story. In the end, I'm glad to hear you're keeping her. I think that, with the restoration, keeping her another few years will make a lot of sense. It will prove to other prospective owners that the repairs were good, and that you're not just selling a lemon. Plus, as you said, it gives you a chance to ENJOY her again! I look forward to reading about your adventures with the mooring ball!

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Response Posted - 01/18/2012 : 21:02:35

Congrats, Cate! Moorings are different, especially if you're single-handed. You might find you hardly ever need to use your outboard (depending on the density of the mooring field). Just get the jib down (or rolled up), approach under the main, and luff up as you get close--it'll take some practice to get the speed and distance right. Also, chafe can be more of an issue.

If you don't have access to a launch, I strongly recommend an inflatable over a hard dinghy (I assume OJ is referring to Walker Bay). The stability for getting in and out is dramatically better.

A solar panel is probably your best bet to maintain the battery--the flexible versions offer some easy choices for securing and removing, although I haven't used one.

Winnipesaukee looks like a wonder venue! Where will you be living?

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Response Posted - 01/19/2012 : 07:41:42

Congrats! I think we were all hoping you'd go that direction.

I have a cheap $75 9-watt panel that's kept both my batteries topped off for over a year now. It's nice to have it permanently mounted and not have to deal with shore power connections.

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Response Posted - 01/19/2012 : 10:23:20

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by NautiC25
 Congrats! I think we were all hoping you'd go that direction.

I have a cheap $75 9-watt panel that's kept both my batteries topped off for over a year now. It's nice to have it permanently mounted and not have to deal with shore power connections.
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I am definitely going to look into the solar solution and probably search around for forum discussions or start a new thread about that.

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Response Posted - 01/19/2012 : 10:59:30

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by NautiC25
 Congrats! I think we were all hoping you'd go that direction.
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Most definitely. Glad to hear you're keeping her.

Mysterious is still an inspiration to me.

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Response Posted - 01/19/2012 : 11:15:59

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Joe Diver
 <blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by NautiC25
 Congrats! I think we were all hoping you'd go that direction.
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Most definitely. Glad to hear you're keeping her.

Mysterious is still an inspiration to me.
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Joe-you have been very honest with me about the boat selling market and pricing and I appreciate that. I'm thinking I may post some before and after pictures to show the sorry state she is in now versus when I get her back in the glorious condition I know she can be in. Mahogany rub rail, here I come!

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Response Posted - 01/19/2012 : 12:45:39

Please do! I look forward to seeing them....

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Response Posted - 01/19/2012 : 13:33:41

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by CateP
 <blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by NautiC25
 Congrats! I think we were all hoping you'd go that direction.

I have a cheap $75 9-watt panel that's kept both my batteries topped off for over a year now. It's nice to have it permanently mounted and not have to deal with shore power connections.
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I am definitely going to look into the solar solution and probably search around for forum discussions or start a new thread about that.
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There's actually quite a few threads about solar panels with good pics of mounting setups.

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Response Posted - 01/19/2012 : 14:18:40

Cate - that seems like the right decision to me! Having seen your boat, I'm certain she'll clean up beautifully. I looked at that lake on Google Earth and it looks like a terrific venue! Best of luck!! Let me know if you need a hand with anything before you go.

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Response Posted - 01/20/2012 : 10:23:41

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Stinkpotter
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A solar panel is probably your best bet to maintain the battery.......<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
(in jest) how do you run the AC, microwave,TV/VCR, cofee pot snd pancake griddle??? yes, we are def a shore power boat....

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Response Posted - 01/20/2012 : 11:50:35

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Ape-X
 <blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Stinkpotter
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A solar panel is probably your best bet to maintain the battery.......<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
(in jest) how do you run the AC, microwave,TV/VCR, cofee pot snd pancake griddle??? yes, we are def a shore power boat....

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I could do it. ;)

I've run a blender to make margaritas using an invertor. Could run most small appliances, but I've never needed it.
I've got an LED 24" TV in my boat that barely draws any amps.
I have a DVD car headunit for to run movies on the TV. Plays MP3's, DVD's, USB input, radio.
Wired up 2-12v plugs for charging phones, nintendo 3DS, etc.
All food is cooked on my Coleman propane stovetop.

Microwave would be tough though.

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Response Posted - 01/20/2012 : 12:47:57

Naughty C: yeah, we could as well with a little forethought. Someone in our boat club runs his microwave on an invertor for short bursts if needed, mostly for popcorn. I have been learning to cook eggs in the micro for the upcoming season, the PO replaced the stove with a microwave, and it is a nice installation, so likely will keep. We did install a propane grill on the stern rail for cooking dinner.

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Response Posted - 01/20/2012 : 13:06:08

I'm considering installing a microwave.

I'm going to install a 110 outlet in the galley, mainly for my Mr Coffee so I don't have to use an extension cord any more.

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Response Posted - 01/20/2012 : 13:12:59

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Joe Diver
 I'm considering installing a microwave.

I'm going to install a 110 outlet in the galley, mainly for my Mr Coffee so I don't have to use an extension cord any more.
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Mine came with one. Were they part of a shore power option or something?

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Response Posted - 01/20/2012 : 13:59:03

I only have 2...the shore power option came with the boat. Both outlets are midway on the little ledge with pinrails, both port and starboard sides.

I found a 110 extension cord end, hard wired into the system, under the aft quarter berth, in the access under the ladder. I don't know what it was used for, but it's a real hillbilly homer job. I'm gonna take it out and clean up that mess and hardwire my battery charger/tender from there.

I figured I'd just install and wire up an additional 110 outlet in the galley, run it off the port side outlet. That will give me 3 110's in the boat, unless I put another one in the V Berth.

I've been doing some work lately to my V Berth, since I use it to sleep in, nap, read, chill. I made a more permanent mount to the cutout insert, so it's stable now and doesn't dislodge anymore. I also hung cargo net along the starboard side to secure light stuff. I'm building a shelf to mount to the starboard side bulkhead, for an alarm clock and stuff. So, I could put a 110 up there.

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Response Posted - 01/20/2012 : 20:29:05

get rid of that extension cord ASAP! and don't use the shore power until you inspect everything. I by chance decided not to use the shorepower until i had chance to inspect and glad I did: the extension cord laying against the hull (starboard settee) and linked in much like you suggested was worn through the outer and individual wire insulation leaving the bare wire against the hull side. !!!
an outlet in the galley is very easy: The shore power comes in near that wall anyway, and I simply used the junction box there adding another branch. I should take some pictures of the AC side completed. I plan to simply plug in the battery charger rather than hard wire into the system: That is what the PO used the hillbilly cord for on Moe U'Hane.

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Joe Diver
 I only have 2...the shore power option came with the boat. Both outlets are midway on the little ledge with pinrails, both port and starboard sides.

I found a 110 extension cord end, hard wired into the system, under the aft quarter berth, in the access under the ladder. I don't know what it was used for, but it's a real hillbilly homer job. I'm gonna take it out and clean up that mess and hardwire my battery charger/tender from there.

I figured I'd just install and wire up an additional 110 outlet in the galley, run it off the port side outlet. That will give me 3 110's in the boat, unless I put another one in the V Berth.

I've been doing some work lately to my V Berth, since I use it to sleep in, nap, read, chill. I made a more permanent mount to the cutout insert, so it's stable now and doesn't dislodge anymore. I also hung cargo net along the starboard side to secure light stuff. I'm building a shelf to mount to the starboard side bulkhead, for an alarm clock and stuff. So, I could put a 110 up there.
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Response Posted - 01/20/2012 : 22:01:10

Cate,
I'm very glad you are taking your boat to Wolfeboro. You won't regret it. It's a beautiful area, both in summer and winter.

Mooring on a ball takes a bit of practice. I was originally on a slip for the first 4 years, and it was a piece of cake. Walk on, walk off.

Then I went to a mooring ball for a short time. Make sure you have a good long mooring pickup and long pennants. There are some solutions that use long poles with hooks for single-handing on and off the ball. best to have a crewmemberon the bow while you steer.

I used my wide and stable kayak as a dink to paddle out. Climbing the boarding ladder took some getting used to. It worked fine. After boarding I took the boat up to the main dock to pick up my guests. The Wolfeboro town docks are large and ample. You'll find strangers are friendly and helpful, and won't remain strangers for long.

I'm currently on a floating dock - which is really a 20' x 42" mooring. This works a lot better than a ball, as I can step up from the kayak onto the floating dock. Then from the dock onto the boat. It's easier.

For power, I have a Honda 8 with a 12A alternator. I also have two 20W solar panels. When you do the math, a Group 24 battery can supply 40AH. Having 2 Amps available from the solar panels, I can completely recharge my batteries in two-three days. Using the engine, I can recharge in 4-5 hours.

Observe what your neighbors do to get on and off the boat. Check how they approach the docks. You'll find that once you get the routine down, it'll get easy.

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Response Posted - 01/22/2012 : 15:50:19

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Voyager
 Cate,
I'm very glad you are taking your boat to Wolfeboro. You won't regret it. It's a beautiful area, both in summer and winter.

Mooring on a ball takes a bit of practice. I was originally on a slip for the first 4 years, and it was a piece of cake. Walk on, walk off.

Then I went to a mooring ball for a short time. Make sure you have a good long mooring pickup and long pennants. There are some solutions that use long poles with hooks for single-handing on and off the ball. best to have a crewmemberon the bow while you steer.

I used my wide and stable kayak as a dink to paddle out. Climbing the boarding ladder took some getting used to. It worked fine. After boarding I took the boat up to the main dock to pick up my guests. The Wolfeboro town docks are large and ample. You'll find strangers are friendly and helpful, and won't remain strangers for long.

I'm currently on a floating dock - which is really a 20' x 42" mooring. This works a lot better than a ball, as I can step up from the kayak onto the floating dock. Then from the dock onto the boat. It's easier.

For power, I have a Honda 8 with a 12A alternator. I also have two 20W solar panels. When you do the math, a Group 24 battery can supply 40AH. Having 2 Amps available from the solar panels, I can completely recharge my batteries in two-three days. Using the engine, I can recharge in 4-5 hours.

Observe what your neighbors do to get on and off the boat. Check how they approach the docks. You'll find that once you get the routine down, it'll get easy.
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Really helpful post Voyager. I was wondering if my Tohatsu 9.8 was enough for The Broads. (the big open part of the lake that can get like an ocean) Also will look into the solar panel needs.

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Response Posted - 01/23/2012 : 22:09:09

Cate -- Regarding being on a mooring; if their is a club or marina with launch service it makes mooring very civilized, If not, then test out different dingy's so YOU are comfortable with your transportation to the boat. And regardless, the longest pennant possible helps. I have singlehanded my boat back onto the mooring many times and it can be done even in relatively windy conditions if you think it through and have practiced a few times.

Welcome to New England!

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Response Posted - 01/24/2012 : 08:55:40

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by CateP
 ...I was wondering if my Tohatsu 9.8 was enough for The Broads. (the big open part of the lake that can get like an ocean)...<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">...well, like a big lake.

9.8 is plenty as long as your prop can stay down most of the time.

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Response Posted - 01/24/2012 : 10:08:06

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Stinkpotter
 <blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by CateP
 ...I was wondering if my Tohatsu 9.8 was enough for The Broads. (the big open part of the lake that can get like an ocean)...<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">...well, like a big lake.

9.8 is plenty as long as your prop can stay down most of the time.
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I have a Tohatsu 8 and was caught in a big storm on the lake with white caps heading upwind. Like Dave mentioned, it worked fine "when the prop was in the water".

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Response Posted - 04/10/2012 : 21:23:20

CateP
I was talking to my brother in law who's down in Alton Bay, NH.

He said that "Ice Out" came on March 28th this year in Lake Winnipesaukee, when the lake turns over from solid to liquid. He said that last weekend, all the fishing boats were up at Wiers Beach in Laconia going for smelts.

I assume you and your family and your boat successfully made the move to Wolfeboro over the winter? When do you think you'll be able to get your boat launched and be ready to go?

Looks like spring is in full swing. Good luck!

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