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PCP777
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Initially Posted - 02/01/2012 :  14:25:35  Show Profile
This is NUTS!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2PQfJ2SAg4
Peter Powers
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~Stephanos~
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NautiC25
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Response Posted - 02/01/2012 :  14:36:35  Show Profile
That was cool! Does the keel pivot or was it modified for this? Cause it wasn't exactly perpendicular to the hull.
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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 02/01/2012 :  15:00:02  Show Profile
The boat has a canting keel, which means that they can rotate the keel to windward in order to help offset the forces exerted on the sail. Without the canting feature, those boats would not be able to carry as much sail area and would not sail as fast.
Here's an article with pics and drawings to explain. The second one is really interesting, as it goes into different styles and which boats they are on:

http://www.barcelonaworldrace.org/en/magazines/detail/the-canting-keel-system-0-9614
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http://www.cariboni-italy.it/filesEsterni/lng_1/S-CK%20Rev11.pdf
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John Russell
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Response Posted - 02/01/2012 :  15:06:31  Show Profile
I wonder what the insurance guy said?
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PCP777
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Response Posted - 02/01/2012 :  15:22:10  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by dmpilc</i>
<br />The boat has a canting keel, which means that they can rotate the keel to windward in order to help offset the forces exerted on the sail. Without the canting feature, those boats would not be able to carry as much sail area and would not sail as fast.
Here's an article with pics and drawings to explain. The second one is really interesting, as it goes into different styles and which boats they are on:

http://www.barcelonaworldrace.org/en/magazines/detail/the-canting-keel-system-0-9614
and
http://www.cariboni-italy.it/filesEsterni/lng_1/S-CK%20Rev11.pdf
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All the high end race boats use them these days like the VOR fleet, I'm going to be working on putting one on Stephanos.

I'm a big fan of VOR and the maxi's, yet I've never seen someone sail the canting keel out of the water. That seems extremely unstable yes?
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John Russell
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Response Posted - 02/01/2012 :  16:36:51  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">That seems extremely unstable yes?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Yep. Why risk putting the stick in the water and all the potential for damage for a silly stunt?
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Sam001
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Response Posted - 02/01/2012 :  17:15:35  Show Profile
It looks like a James Bond trick
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OJ
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Response Posted - 02/01/2012 :  19:13:53  Show Profile
Creative, attention grabbing advertisement!
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Joe Diver
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Response Posted - 02/01/2012 :  19:15:15  Show Profile
That was pretty awesome.....
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delliottg
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Response Posted - 02/01/2012 :  23:37:34  Show Profile  Visit delliottg's Homepage
I notice there's no rudder on the port side. Which makes sense, you don't want to jump/get washed off and get killed by the rudder trying to slice you in half.
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PCP777
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Response Posted - 02/02/2012 :  11:03:13  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by delliottg</i>
<br />I notice there's no rudder on the port side. Which makes sense, you don't want to jump/get washed off and get killed by the rudder trying to slice you in half.
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I understand that it retracts or flips up.
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Ape-X
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Response Posted - 02/02/2012 :  13:42:10  Show Profile
notice the leeway they are making in a couple other pictures. Nonetheless, pretty cool bottom job on that boat, and not what I think of when heave-to.
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PCP777
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Response Posted - 02/02/2012 :  15:13:00  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Ape-X</i>
<br />notice the leeway they are making in a couple other pictures. Nonetheless, pretty cool bottom job on that boat, and not what I think of when heave-to.
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Seems like there's two of them, this one (watch at about :32 where she launches off of a wave)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMYFMHZB0zw

His new one is white on one side...



and black on the other..



down to even the main sail...cool looking sled
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islander
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Response Posted - 02/03/2012 :  06:55:10  Show Profile
Awesome boat. It looks like the Radom for the Garmin radar is on a gimbal mount in the above photo to keep it on a horizontal plane...cool.
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Stinkpotter
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Response Posted - 02/03/2012 :  08:54:24  Show Profile
"Hugo Boss, this is Coast Guard Sector Long Island Sound... What color is your vessel? Over."

"Coast Guard -- Hugo Boss -- White from Connecticut; black from Long Island. That could change. Over."
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